Lich & Necromancer Updates | Coming to Last Epoch August 21st

Some neat changes, although I’m a bit irked to still see a lot of the anti-fun kind of designs cropping up again. I really hate arbitrarily hard capping proc rates and things like that.

I’m definitely gonna look at doing something with Flay or Aura of Decay. Maybe cold converted Flay could let Bane of Winter do something. I might also give the Ruby Venom set another try with Lich.

I’m kind of confused by Transference. It seems like one of those things you imagine being useful, then you realize that the situation never comes up. So I’m gonna build around the self poison thing and a melee skill so that I can hit them with the melee skill, attach it, then… walk away from the thing I’m trying to kill and fuck around for up to 6 seconds while it maybe dies to poison? And what am I doing in the mean time? Go hit random other stuff without my aura that is presumably a significant portion of my damage?

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How does it work for existing chars when passives they have points in get removed or changed? Do the points just transfer to the new passive?
Or is there a complete free char respec when there’s too many changes, like in PoE?

This looks great. I’m very excited for the changes.

I am bummed that there’s no mention of changes to Lich Form. Thematically it’s wrong to have Lich feel like it’s running out of time.

Death is not short on time, his victims are.

I can’t stand how playing Lich feels like you’re always racing against the clock to finish zones/bosses before the decay kicks you out. I can see people arguing it from a systems and balancing perspective because the form gives you a second HP bar. But thematically it’s just wrong, and always deters me from loving a class I would main in any other game.

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Aura of decay is going to be a lot of fun now. Also so happy they are removing death seal and reaper form as that really held build diversity back with their restrictive mechanics. I was gonna start necro but now thinking of Cold Lich and being Death itself.

Congrats, @Heavy


Overall, I’m not impressed by this “rework”. I’m sure I’m in the minority though

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If a tree has received significant changes, it receives a free respec: points become unallocated without loss, and can be re-assigned on first log-in.

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Oh no I heard death seal, reaper form were removed? Honestly those 2 things killed the class and making builds. Hope they aren’t in the way anymore. If so big bummer.

Why not just let lich use exang and low life gear without the restrictive death seal function. Death seal and reaper form just meant I can’t wear this item or that one or try this build. Was so annoying to try and create something fun. Just clunky and in the way.

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Huge fan of the Acolyte and Necromancer. Been wanting to go Lich for quite some time so I hope that it is a viable type of build end game. Think I will be checking it out with the new update.

Never played Lich! I have had a necro every season though. In honor of Heavy I might try it lol

can’t wait to make another phys dmg lich again :smiley:

sorry I dont agree. when you learn how to play it properly and your gear is good enough that is fun. It offers a unique playstyle which is itself a good thing

@Heavy You gave me now even more reason to try Lich. Gonna hunt those axes. New item seems very cool and also art is top notch.

Nice little teasers about reworks, can’t wait for friday patch notes.

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Sorry I disagree, death seal and reaper form are 100% holding the Lich class back from creating interesting builds. The skills are just in the way. If you like it coolzies but they are the main reason I don’t and most players don’t play lich. It has nothing to do with playing properly, it’s more like jumping through specific hoops to make antiquated mechanics function.

Hopefully reaper form is gone like I heard and hopefully we don’t have to use death seal.

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Lich looks very interesting. Looking forward to it.

Ahh cool good to know that thanks

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but if you dont like Lich mechanics you can play one of 14 other masteries and we who really like that mechanics can’t enjoy it anymore . that is just not fair.

I am becoming the lich king. cold decay aura LOGIN

The reason why Lich is the least played class is people don’t enjoy it. The design is restrictive, unfun and well you get it. Not gonna hyjack this thread anymore said what was needed and want to be positive and hope Lich rework is enough to FIX it so it can be an enjoyable Class for people to finally play.

If Lich is still terrible as you say at least we got the other masteries and can’t wait for the Primodial items to create super fun builds. Have a good one and enjoy the season :slight_smile:

Look forward to the rest of Hype week and everything they cooking so far looks great!! Keep it rolling EHG.

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for you maybe. that’s fine. To each his own. I love it. And I have the same right to get fun as you or anyone else who bought the game. Anyway - the takeaway here - Mike confirmed in the official discord that Repear forma and Death Seal will stay :smiley: I’m happy

Notes seem kind of light on necromancer changes. Where’s the dread shade changes?

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