Welp… F
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Thank you for the Diablo 3-style limited “trading”.
This way you don’t have to kill drop rates by factors of hundreds to assume an economy of X size and the game becomes like Path of Exile where all you are doing is farming chaos to buy stuff instead of finding the items themselves.
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I am really curious why you decided to go with your own servers when you aren’t gonna let any sort of trade happen, any insights? This game might as well be a Coop game with a player hosting, which would allow more benefits such as mods, better performance etc. Currently only reason for servers seem to be possible cosmetics and ladder.
Overall, I am not buying your reasons I am afraid. This is far too different than the Last Epoch that was being discussed couple years ago IMO.
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Thank you EHG!
Now please stay true to your vision and evolve LE into some different kind of ARPG, that can have its own place in the ARPG landscape with its own defining characteristics.
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Saw trade and MP was coming and got the game a month ago, thought I’d try it out and get used to some systems before MP. RIP should’ve waited, waste of money.
This game cannot actually compete with big titles without a form of global trade. It can do fairly well like grim dawn but never be anything more.
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So No Global Trading but Party Trading ?
i always wanted to make a cool build around some very rare uniques but i just cant be arsed to farm 1 mono forever and pray to jesus that it drop
Sadage tbh , but hey at least the crafting system isn’t getting invalidated by trade
i don’t understand why All items need to be untradable … maybe allow uniques to be traded but not any rarity below that ??? or some way to target farm a specific unique i want beyond just the base type ?
thanks for all your hardwork tho , i hope it all works out 
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So it’s just a clunkier form of bridging between Instanced and non-Instanced Loot?
This doesn’t particularly bother me any but it seems pretty disingenuous to call this “trade” (which you haven’t) or to suggest it takes the place of trade (which you have).
First of all, it isn’t a trade. There is no two-way interaction with this system between two parties.
Second of all, even in the context of friends adventuring together and sharing loot together, the whole point of ‘gifting’ should be to enable friends to share a cool item they got at any time with each other. For instance, I really needed an Omnividence for one of my characters recently, and had been farming for hours on end for it. A friend of mine dropped three in a couple hours without really trying, and binned all of them. If we weren’t playing together when those drops occurred, those drops would remain worthless to him and unable to reach me?
This seems like a highly restrictive system that, again, only serves to reduce visual screen clutter by not utilizing free-for-all (aka non-Instanced) loot.
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Huge F, real shame. Can’t even trade an item with good friends if you make a nice item for them because you have the runes. Can’t trade an item if you don’t think about giving them the item, as the only time you can give them the item is in the SAME ZONE?
Which ARPG player think hard about which loot might be good for which charcater in a zone vs hideout. Especially from items in a dungeon and ESPECIALLY in a game where resetting and chaging your whole build is so easy (thank you for that btw).
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This is good news, definitely one of the better ways to handle progression balance in the game.
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I completely agree with all your points, and agree that gifting being the only implemented trade is what’s best for the game long-term. I know you will probably get mixed responses about this, but I really appreciate your thinking, and I’m with you. Can’t wait for 0.9!
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I’m so happy with this! Thanks for not making another Capitalism Simulator!
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Items being tradable is part of the reason why finding them feels good and exciting, it gives them value beyond what you might consider worth. It also allows you to introduce rare chase items that are exceedingly powerful but proportionally rare.
Disappointing that you went with the easy “diablo3” route, but oh well. Big F’s for the future of this game, hope you prove me wrong in the long run, since I really liked it and been watching your progress since kickstarter.
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I personally don’t like this choice, but I guess someone will enjoy it 
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This is terrible news. The point of multiplayer is to let players collaborate and trade valuable items they find but don’t need for items they do. If we wanted to find everything on our own we would just play SSF or offline.
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Make a group, farm at 600+ corruption and a lot of uniques/exalted items will drop on each echoes, then trade.
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Love to see this kind of direction, especially not wanting to make the solo playstyle worse by balancing around economy.
I have a concern that poe-heads are going to balk at the system since it’s such a different direction, but hopefully the ARPG community will give LE a chance even without open trade.
One thing I had hoped to end up with is the ability to trade idols since certain combinations of prefix/suffix can be rare (not to mention the rolls). I respect the direction and intent, but it certainly comes with a cost.
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Thank you for not making another POE “Play the Economy” game.
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I like this system.
However, if I’m the only one in my party with reason to farm a zone, then I’m probably the only one having fun doing it. Assuming the scenario that we farm zones as a party for individual member goals, this is the same man-hour investment as each of us farming separately for our own goal. If party play is inherently fun enough to be enough incentive on its own, this could be a very good system for people with LE playing friends.
Otherwise, its not really accomplishing anything unless a really good public party system comes in also. Assuming enough players online, I could see a system where public instances for each zone can be clicked into and everyone auto-joins a party. Then we just need a way to easily indicate what we’re looking for, hope others are willing to part with any that drop, and hope they will actually gift it. Probably asking a lot here.
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Or maybe it can occupy its own space in the ARPG landscape? You know setting itself apart from all the other games.
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I have to honestly say I am disappointed by this decision and think that this system is worse than having no trade at all.
The only last hope I have now is that co-op would actually be fun and sufficiently differentiating experience from other ARPGs. We’ll see, I suppose.
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