this was the only build i did becuz it takes very long time to gear it and i played it for 2 weeks until PoE 2 league was out i wanna do this build again for the 1 week that il play but did this got nerfed in any way?
Infernal Shade hasnât been touched since 1.2 (as you can see by searching in the patch notes).
https://forum.lastepoch.com/search?q=infernal%20shade%20%23patch-notes%20order%3Alatest
but is it gonna get nerfed in the next cycle
Not likely, I think. Lich and Necro are getting reworks/buffs, so itâs more likely that there will be some indirect buffs to it because of that. Itâs not like warlock was one the top classes anyway (even though itâs pretty close).
Iâd say itâs more likely it will get stronger, rather than weaker. But only the devs can know for sure, until they release patch notes.
1400c is pretty decent but that doesnât look like a build that needs nerfing that stick will hopefully whack all the 20 second uber kill classes on the head and the broken meme builds that canât do an echo but can kill the big boss with 1 hit, lol.
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As the Devs said⌠when a class reaches 4 digit corruption they messed up. If they are true to their word it will be nerfed. If they are lying through their theeth nothing will happen.
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Where did they say that? Thatâs actually a really bad take.
They said that during Season 0 and 1. At the time they were trying to balance builds between 300c and less than 1000c.
They havenât said that since and the introduction of Uby leads to the conclusion that this has been dropped from their intentions and no longer holds true.
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Thatâs their last take on blancing so it stays untill itâs stated other wise. Then again EHG is moving goal posts the whole time so noone can hold them accountable for messing up again and again.
I still think their inability to balance stuff is pretty strange. They made a game and Iâm sure they are not so incompetent to tweak some numbers or to reach goals they aim for.
Well thereâs at least a dozen of builds Iâve seen personally reach 1000+ corruption, I suppose thereâs a lot more of them and some of those Iâve personally seen or experienced myself have stayed roughly the same throughout the cycles. Besides falconer which is still godly after nerfs it seems like they really donât care about nerfing them (which is a good thing).
I donât see why having no goals for the real difficulty of the game is a good thing. To me it looks like they just roll dices and take whatever comes up. They neglect this completely without taking any accountability and to me this showes only one thing: They donât care.
If they donât care about balancing and leaving everyone hanging on this topic why should i belive anything else they say? Tomorrow they can change their stance when their dice showes a three instead of a two. This is inconsistent with a free pass for them to make up things however they want for everything they want.
If they donât care they should say so because to me it looks like they obviously donât care. Even if they said they had a lot of work to do and balancing is an afterthought right now outside of glaring issues this would be fine because they at least said something. All we get are random numbers throwing arround like â300C is endgameâ or âIf you can run 300C you have a good buildâ or âIf someone reaches 4 digit corruption we messed upâ.
Sure if you are fine for them to mess up every day for months with no end in sight I guess thatâs an oppinion and Iâm okay with it even when it feels strange to me personaly. I for my part donât want developers to do whatever they want and not staying true to what they said. In every industry i worked i wouldâve been fired a lot of times if this was my workethic⌠âOur heart pacemakers work more or less and our goal is to make them work in certain parameters we canât tell you but we are very sure no problems will occur.â or something like âYeah we tailored that machine to your needs in a tolerance range of 40%-100% of what we said because we mess up sometimes ooopsies.â.
mabye itâs my inner german that likes rules and DIN norms and whatever but all i get out of this is âThis devs canât be trusted because they talk a boatload of crap.â. It would be easy to say âWe are sorry we canât adress balancing right now. In the future we aim to reach certain goals but it takes us more time then we thought. We aim that well thought out builds can reach 2000C at best but we need time untill everything getâs there. We are sorry this takes so long but we need to make nice supporter packs people buy and to deliver content that was promised to be there months ago but you know⌠you we take what we say with only more or less seriously and and we know everyone understands we need a bit of wiggleroom because⌠reasons.â.
Now we are at a point where people go batshit crazy if they tone things down to a reasonable dimension because people feel entitled to their build that were in a messed up state given the last information we have from a EHG developer. To me itâs hard to trust someone who isnât standing by their word and therefor I wait for a statement and never spend another dime on Kraft⌠erm Last Epoch.
What I mean by saying itâs good is that artificially cutting the balls off for overperforming builds would be a personal disaster of mine, since you can reach 300c easily and if you made it so that going past that number would be pretty much unattainable I would just drop the game completely.
Yeah you say this a lot, but itâs pretty obvious 1k is the new 300. Theyâre giving t8 affixes. I donât think the take is the same. Shifting into accepting the game provides enough opportunities to reach early four digits when minmaxed isnât âlying through their teethâ. Itâs being realistic about the foundation people are working from.
We canât tell what their perfomence expectations are because they donât tell us. Imagine they say âWe aim for 1000C to be unreachable for now and balance accordingly.â. A they had their word to keep what they canât as it seems and B they would need to nerf everything.
LE is just the new D3 and the fanbase is to blind to see it. My inner german is alarmed and rebelling against this kind of crap but the devs do as they want with as little accountability as possible.
The last statement on balancing is from Mike and he said, in short, if someone reaches 4 digit corruption they messed up. To me itâs obvious that they mess up non stop. If they want to be save they could say â2k is peak content and if anyone is able to do so we would be impressed.â.
It is for me. Saying A and doing B is lying at best where Iâm from. We are intentionally left in the dark so they donât need to do anything about powercreep and mindlessly overpowered builds. They make their life easy and do nothing about it outside of fixing bugs or cutting down completely OP builds a bit.
In what universe? People work with what they get and if they get broken and OP crap they should step back and say âWait a minute! 1000C was mentioned as a mess up what is going on?â instead people play the game and feel so awesome for easiely reaching goals that are messed up. To me this is just bad and a sign how little the devs care about the game and balaning over all⌠just donât forget to buy support packs ^^.
Macknum, it isnât that simple. Youâre reducing everything to fit your personal opinion. There are builds that are shattering 5k corruption, even one specifically pushing beyond 20k. The devs were specifically addressing these outliers. 1k having 4 digits is simply not the same, nor the issue. If a player puts the tremendous effort required into getting multiple t7 affixes on every single item, they are naturally going to be able to, on a well made, synergetic build, break 1k corruption.
The fact that you donât seem to understand that this is a natural conclusion to an evolving process has me questioning your personal progress. I have questions along the lines of your best items crafted, what are they? How far have you personally pushed a character? Highest level? These are important to consider because you are coming at this topic with the confidence of a veteran player with perfect use of every resource, and dissatisfied because the game offers too many easy paths that reduce the authenticity of success for others.
Lastepochtools.com will let anyone see everything about a player using their user name. If you see someone has immaculate gear, do you automatically assume it is because they are using âBroken and OP crap?â
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That timeline is valuable for understanding the context with all the statements being made surrounding this topic. Thank you for once again remaining cordial while you conversate and bringing value to the discussion.
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As soon as you reach 4 digits⌠Iâm not a native speaker but to me this sounds like 999 is okay and as soon as you reach 1000 itâs messed up. IIRC that was the statement. This isnât about my personal oppinion. As I said if they throw out a number and balance accordingly Iâm fine with it. So stop this nonsense and take a stack back from trying to make out the motivation of people if you have no clue or understaning in the first place.
The natural conclusion of powercreep yes. If there is no balance to work arround everything is a mess. If you donât say X is the limit you open the doors wide for powercreep. If you have a different oppinion thatâs fine. You can say ânah everything is good and we donât need balance and everything will develop naturaly.â and I can say âwe need balance so we know where we stand and when things work like intended and when not.â. If you are against this we simply agree to disagree.
The way EHG is handeling things is a motivation killer and I went from playing the game 10h+ a day when it released to not touching it most of the time because EHG is messing things up from my point of view. âWhy should I play a broken game that leads nowhere?â is a question I ask myself a lot. If they canât even balance their game remotly why should I trust their abilitys to get something else done right?
anything acolyte is likely getting buffed lol
You sound pretty angry. Like you just said âwhy should I play a broken gameâ no one is making you play 10 hours a day or 10 minutes youâre the one clicking the login button.
Every patch that is released we get stronger chars due to better gear new skills etc, I mean the upgrade to a guarenteed slam affix was fricking huge when you look back on old YT videos dudes doing Abberoth and 2000c with T5 and 6 slams and now weâre running loot filters to only show 77 and above, wild.
The devâs are not your parents, your teacher or your boss. They make a game, we buy it and pay for it once. They then upgrade the game for everyone adding content which will now be a regular thing. You get patch notes. You shouldnât need someone to say âwork towards this corruption and youâve completed your assignmentâ youâre a grown ass man. Play the game, make a build and enjoy it. Get to as high as you can and feel good OR sit here googling old statements made many moons ago by devs and have a huge fricking cry about it.
Honestly the amount of people on these forums who just complain about this game and are negative about anything is insane! If you hate something then spend your life and free time moaning about it you truely are pretty fkn sad.
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Iâm the one who isnât clicking the login button anymore or rarely. This season for example looks remotly intresting because there is a new chapter and the Lich class changes seem mildly intresting. On top of it Iâm not angry about a random person talking to me on the internet. Sadly Iâm not a native speaker and my english skills are kind of bad since i donât use the language as often as in the past.
Thatâs problem #1 for me. last game this happens was D3.
Yes itâs wild far from normal.
All hail cpt obvious? Do I miss something here?
They made a game and promised a lot and somehow it seems like people lack the understanding that Iâm not pleased with EHG keeping themself from beeing accountable and only offer texts that are highly interpretable to everyones liking. I for example thought I bought a game where balancing is a part of. Remember when 300C was endgame then a good running build then 4 digit was their benchmark for when they mess up. I want a number they want to balance the game arround thatâs all. I donât need this number met 100% and sometimes stuff is better or worse but to me it looks like the people want their powertrip without any form of challange.
To make things clear if EHG says 1000C is pinacle and we donât want people to overstep this and balance accordingly I know where I stand and what I can reach. Letâs compare it to D4. If you reach pit 100 you accomplished something, if you run pit 120+ you most likely getting to the end of it while some people are able to push further toward pit 150 what takes time, effort and skill, given there is no broken stuff in a season. That is something I can wrap my head arround.
Having a game where you play a buid and sky is the limit because the devs take shortcuts to be not accountable for anything⌠to me this is simply bad. Again I donât want everyone to do 1 dmg and call it balancing there are for sure ups and downs but in reasonable frame and not one build that dos 10k C while others nibble at 1267C.
First of all am I? On top of this Iâm a grown man asking for genre typical stuff and an answer about it and all I get is powercreep. I voice my oppinion here because Iâve not completely given up on LE.
There is no enjoyment for me if there is no even playing field where the goalposts move every now and then as soon as it getâs iffy for the Devs.
As long as there is no recent statement Iâll do.
Honestly the ammount of people who defend a company who isnât able to communicate basic stuff and act according to what they say is insae to me.
If I would hate it I wonât be here. The state of the game and how it is handled makes me sad and I voice my oppinion about it.
Rest assured if I think LE is fubar I move on and never look back and never touch another product from EHG when I gave up on it. Untill then then Iâm here and talk about my feelings and oppinions on the game no matter how little anyone likes this because they canât accept other peoples oppinions 
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