I have questions about triggered skill…please help

[Rightened]

when a skill triggers another skill…

1. when a skill only available by trigger skill, does triggered skill also affected by options for trigger skill?

ex) does Lava burst from shield throw - eruption node
also affected by molten toss node(increase shield throw more fire damage)?
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2. in case of Void knight, echoes also does void skill triggered by another void skill too?

ex) abyssal echoes triggered by void cleave
if void cleave itself is echoed, echo’s void cleave also trigger abyssal echoes?
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3. unique neckless “bleeding heart” has a “ You are inflicted with bleed when you cast a spell” affix. in this case…

a. instant cast spell skill (no casting motion)

b. casting spell skill triggered by non casting type skill(melee, throw)
ex)smite by lunge

c. spell skill only available by specific non casting skill’s node
ex) lava burst by shield throw

does a,b or c also cause bleeding heart’s inflict bleed affix?
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thanks for your help!

[Heavy]

@Rightened

when a skill only available by trigger skill, does triggered skill also affected by options for trigger skill?

Generally speaking:

If the triggered ability does not have its own skill spec tree, nodes inside the skill spec tree that trigger it do affect it, unless specifically mentioned.

@Rightened

in case of Void knight, echoes also does void skill triggered by another void skill too?

If the conditions is valid, yes echoes can trigger all sorts of stuff.
Your examples does work.

There are some trigger conditions like “if you use skill x directly”, which would not work for a echo for example.

@Rightened

unique neckless “bleeding heart” has a “ You are inflicted with bleed when you cast a spell” affix. in this case…

@Rightened

a. instant cast spell skill (no casting motion)

yes, you still casted it

@Rightened

b. casting spell skill triggered by non casting type skill(melee, throw)
ex)smite by lunge

c. spell skill only available by specific non casting skill’s node
ex) lava burst by shield throw

no, only skills you cast yourself do count towards bleeding hard.

And welcome to the LE Forum!

[Rightened]

@Heavy

Generally speaking:

If the triggered ability does not have its own skill spec tree, nodes inside the skill spec tree that trigger it do affect it, unless specifically mentioned.

you mean if triggered skill can’t be specialized(doesn’t have a own specializing tree, not a few own modifying node for that in trigger skill tree), trigger skill’s modifying node affect on triggered skill too?

sorry for dumb question and poor english
thanks for your welcome!

[Heavy]

Yes that’s what I mean, unless it’s specifically mentioned.

There are some skills, that have subskills, that are specifically not affected by other nodes within a tree.

For Examples Marrow Shards “Bone Splinters”.

Lava Burst from Shield Throw does not state this, so everynode in Shield Throws Tree does affect it as well, unless a specific node would state otherwise.

And for triggered abilities that do have their own skill spec tree, they generally are not affected by other skill spec tree, unless otherwise stated.

@Rightened

sorry for dumb question and poor english

No problem, those are not “noob questions”. It’s a very complex system with loots of intricate parts.

While this would not help you with this issue, while we are at it, I just want to point out towards the Game Guide, in case you have any questions try finding your answeres there first, because its an excellent ressource.

Press [G] when you are In-Game.