I give up with this game. (rage)

Considering that D2 is from 2000 and FFX is from 2001, I would say it’s the opposite? :stuck_out_tongue:

No, PoE’s passive tree reminded me of FFX’s sphaero grid.

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Ah, my bad, I read that wrong (and I never played FF, so I couldn’t really tell what you were referring to). Carry on, then.

I played D4 Season 5 a lot. I think I got my money’s worth in that season but eventually I got bored because there was nothing much to do in the endgame other than finding the perfect gear, doing more Infernal Hordes, and Pits.

I switched to LE right before the cycle reset (last time I touched LE was when the release had severe issues). It was fun at first. I got to do a bunch of monos, but eventually I got bored because it’s all monos. I searched the forums and read online if there’s anything beyond the monos. Nope, it’s all monos.

When reset came, I continued my character in Legacy. Still doing monos. Got bored. I got the same feeling as when I played D4 Season 5.

In general, I would say there’s more things to do in Diablo 4 Season 5 than in LE Cycle 1 Reset 1. Boredom hit me faster in LE though.

So now, I’m playing Tekken 8 with my Haute42 Pad.

I’m waiting for D4 VoH to come out. I’m also waiting for PoE2 to come out. I’m hoping LE will release something interesting in the next cycle.

Probably because Trump is a swear word in England (means break wind)

I had to google it & yeah, i can see the resemblance.

I’m not sure I’d call it a swear word. I’m not even sure my parent’s generation would (& they’re ~80).

I had to google “Break wind” because I’ve never heard or read it before. (English is my third language.)

That’s a funny expression; I giggled and I feel like i’m 10 years old.

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We have quite a few terms for it. Trouser trumpet is an amusing one.

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Unfortunately, welcome to Endgame of ARPG’s.

There are two main player camps in Diablo-clones:

  1. the endless grind for better gear to make your endless grind easier? I guess? (someone in this camp will have to explain). These players will grind one character through the endless content (if the game has it) to strive for the perfect gear for their character to be as strong as feasibly possible. Seasons help these players by forcing them to start over with new characters, otherwise they hit that point of 10-20 hours of grinding for a 1% gain. Some may play the standard/legacy versions rather than season/cycle, but most play Cycle to my understanding.

  2. the “joy of bulding” camp. These players focus on bringing a character as far as they’re having fun with it before saying “ooh, piece of candy” and trying a new character from scratch. They may dabble in the endless content to test the build they made, but it’s rarely for the sake of making it as strong as possible and more for theorycraft sake. These players tend to have dozens of alts.

Of course there is some crossover between camps and they’re not mutually exclusive. But the end game of a Diablo clone can be vaguely placed into those two camps. Grind endless content (mono’s, in this case) for the peak of your build, or make more characters to try new builds.

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The game is pretty fun imo, but what is driving me away is the crashing. I am crashing at the end of about 80% of my monos now, and its happening at the blessing select screen. So I am having to re-do the entire questline and do the boss again in the hopes that it doesn’t crash. Its too broken to deal with.

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I don’t think that’s a common issue. It might be something specific to you. I would start by verifying files with steam. Might be something wrong with a file. It won’t hurt, at least.

I have tried that and just about any other thing I know to do- drivers, etc. Thanks though!

At the moment there are 17k people playing D2R, and less than 1.5k in LE, it is the year 2024 of the Gregorian calendar, the year 4722 in the Chinese Xia Li calendar, what does this have to do with the fact that one game is much better than the other?

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Well, first of all, this game is registering less than 1.5k players, now in the initial days of new content it is crawling to 5k. So, my friend, it’s not like people are lining up to play, they just stopped, okay? OK?
The game is TOTALLY AND PURELY FOCUSED ON META BUILDS, JUST LOOK AT THE RANKINGS THAT THE GAME ITSELF MAKES AVAILABLE.
I’ve already said what’s bad about this game and what’s good about it, unfortunately the company is increasingly ignoring what’s good, focusing on what’s worst to please the whales or the ego of failed devs. I’m also a dev (from another area) and I would be ashamed to be in a project like this because the feedback existed and they chose the path of failure.

Do you really believe that? Because in the season I played I let my 3 year old nephew hammer random keys and kill everything with a lok ward build…if that’s difficult for you friend I’m deeply sorry for your life

Blizzard hasn’t released a valid way to get playercounts in many years. The only thing you can find are various hilarious random and differing website that use unknown metrics since the actual ones aren’t publicly available.

There’s also an argument for the actualy players, such as people you’d ever interact with, versus the just doing their own thing people (ESPECIALLY in D2:R where offline single player is extremely popular due to the playercount command and the static map for farming). Don’t get me wrong, LE’s comparison for interaction would just be how much stuff is on the market, but point is it’s really not that straightforward.

If you look at things like the interest and seeing every friend list you have for various ARPG games all jumping on D2:R when it was released, and also doing the same for LE, they’re both essentially “dead” in that same regard.

All that aside, your post literally said “makes diablo 4 look good”. By any metric anyone would use, that’s not possible. Maybe the couch-coop scaling D4 had could win for “play with your friends”, ignoring it’s hilarious release-state where level 10s were carrying level 90s.

Itemization…Yeah D4 got exponentially better, but if you’ve actually tried pumping a build that isn’t one of whatever current 3 can delete uber bosses, you’ll find how hilariously meme that comparison is.

Paragon board is a giant meme. You can combine at least half of the nodes together and it would accomplish the same goal and still be complicated for no other reason than being complicated.

Blizzard has never had a handle on balance for that game. LE isn’t “perfect” by ANY stretch, but there’re many more “viable” builds, even within the same masteries, vs the 2 or at most 3 for each class period in D4 (some classes only 1 in a season if you plan to get anything done).

I’ve personally never cared about story, but I know a few people who do and none of them (or any review I could find online) had good things for D4 in that deparment. So even if LE’s is bad, they cancel out.

Campaign? Both get an L. Last act for D4 was cool, but there’re a few cool parts in LE too, and both are overly bloated just to say there’s something there. Except D4 had more running, vs LE having more action (keep in mind they’re essentially both ACTION RPGs so…)

Boss fights? Idk where to start here, but yeah LE wins. Granted LE’s dungeons leave much to be desired…but that’s a tangent. NMDs in D4 got boring after one season and they’re still mandatory, meanwhile Merchant Guild on LE gives you the option to skip everything except Julra for LPs.

I’m too tired to keep going but the list is not short. D4 is no longer the worst ARPG on the market, but it still loses by comparison to LE. Everything you mentioned about D2, you could totally play LE in the same manner, you just don’t because you’re expecting MORE out of it (which yeah, it’s a newer game) but forget that hurdle didn’t exist for D2 and your nostalgia for when it was the best ARPG on the market for many years.

So I’ll look away from this thread but enjoy telling everyone how bad the game that you just posted 3 replies to their forums is. I’m sure everyone lives on the forums for games they hate. :rofl:

Did you read my text? You are still ragig like someone whose life depends on a video game. If you dont like it, just let it go.

BTW: I just entered empowered monoliths with a Warpath VK. Its like dreamwalking. Its not meta. But I still can easily do a few hundred corruption. And I am not even geared up or have maxed out resistances. Maybe you are just not good enough in this game to play anything else than meta builds?

The writing in D4 was immeasurably better than D3, so there’s that (& yes, I know it’s a low bar).

For what it’s worth, I liked the writing for D3, D4, and LE. Whatever one might think of the gameplay department - in terms of presentation, Blizzard is miles ahead of all other ARPGs.

I am just a sucker for angels & demons, but also Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey.
I guess a Dr Who ARPG would be the perfect one.

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Really? Even chapter 3’s pointless monologues from Azmodan (I think?) about how his X will stop you, then him acknowledging that you killed his X but his Y will definitely kill you. Oh no! You killed his Y, don’t worry, his Z are the real deal!!!1

And as for the “mystery” behind who the stranger was. Well, that had fewer twists than a laser in empty Euclidean space.