Can confirm that spires do not shoot if you just stand idly
In my experience, Spires don’t shoot on auto-procs like those anymore. I’ve tried it with the Maelstrom idol and the Sigil ring.
Don’t even have to stand still idly, you just have to be out of combat and not directly using any skills. If there’s no monsters attacking you, you can walk the entire map without using skills and the spires won’t shoot.
I also don’t think they’re any fun. Whenever there’s a spire, I just rush the objective then do anything else I want to do in that map. And I believe EHG doesn’t want people to feel like they need to rush mono objectives, so this might be a problem and they might want to address that.
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on high corruption, I feel I got to rush straight to this rather than finding nemesis or experimental mage and then having to backtrack. Dislike that design more than anything and it’s more of an annoyance. I do remember before the change that you load into the map, if you didn’t do anything like move the spires would hit you lol.
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I hate the poison spyres as my builds usually are weak to poison. I also play casters so if this thing comes down on me while I am stuck in place I get hammered.
If last epoch removed the 1S GCD and let you move instantly it would be less of a problem. In offline it’s less of a problem. In online with 70Ms of latency- I ain’t seeing it until I am dead
Nice, they must have fixed it when they made the spire changes recently and I missed that.
You can still use some skills and it won’t trigger them. I think it’s buffs that do this. I know that I had some stuff on auto cast on a character and it didn’t trigger them. Raptor rampage also doesn’t.
Im on your side. I hate spires too. For me no fun. I try to re-enter echos for spires.
Hope they will be banished from the game 
Yeah just my personal opinion. I’m more a relaxed player and dont like to get stressed
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See a spire mono? Port out and reset it and try again. You don’t lose your rewards, but you can keep resetting to avoid them.
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True, but it doesn’t make it any more fun… I’d vote for the complete removal of spires.
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Yes, spires ARE FUCKING CANCER!
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I will say SPIRES are “balanced” at baseline where players are given enough time to get out of the way.
But then when you add in 1001 other AOEs happening on screen and with the player sometimes being CC’d it becomes not balanced. The AOE telegraph might as well be invisible at that point.
On top of all that when i win an “idol lottery” i want to check all of them out, read their mods before picking them up and ignoring the rest.
THE SPIRES PREVENT ME FROM DOING THAT. i need to actually read, then move, then read again, then move.
THIS IS A PLAIN UNFUN MECHANIC.
Yes i am pissed with it. But I can think of 2 ways EHG can fix it.
- Allow players to PAUSE the game while highlighting things so they can take their time to read em
- Just get rid of spires. Theres so many new content coming in the next patch, just remove them entirely
patch notes - cos I hate them too;
Spire Changes
- In Spire objective Echoes, all Spires will now spawn with a Spire Guardian.
- Spire Guardians are special mini-bosses that guard the Spires in their Echoes.
- Spires will now wait to attack you until you are in combat with the Spire Guardian.
- While you are in combat with the Spire Guardian, the Spire can still attack you anywhere in the zone.
- Spires will have a protective shield around them and cannot be damaged until the Spire Guardian has been defeated.
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whoa that addresses ALL my concerns
man EHG is really killing it
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In addition to the changes, if you stopped to read stuff, after 4s of not using skills the spires would stop casting, so they were never as bad as you feel.
thats an interesting tidbit that would have made me feel more at ease if i knew it a long time ago hahaha. oh well. cant wait for the spires to be made different.
with all my heart
When i see spires i just open up portal n enter echo again. Problem solved.
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Have you tried to filter them better? 
With proper loot filter you should not read anything during echoes, just loot everything that shows up, every junk should be hidden. And then, after completing echo and returning “home” you check everything you got, including echo rewards.
If you ever run out of inventory space in single echo, then you definitely have loot filter issues. With an exception of huge CoF prophecy lootsplosions of course, it’s impossible to fully filter them with 75 rules xD
tbh i should have but havent gotten up to updating my filters… speaking of which… i should. but in any case i m happy that the spires have been reworked.
- Patch notes also:
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I just came here to day “I do”!