I really dont get it, wasted like 25 havoc runes for nothing…
I have two prefixes Tier 3 and one Suffix Tier 7 and other Suffix Tier 6.
So regarding the havoc rune description affix cant have sam tier as before, so my suffix T6 and T7 should transer to my Tier 3 prefixes or?
But this doenst work at all like that…
So based on its description, it moves the tiers around randomly, but it does not say that any individual affix cant end up the same.
So lets say you have a t5 prefix, a t3 prefix, and two t7 suffix, it could just swap the two prefixes, and the suffixes just end up the same. Ive definitely used it with items that have one exalted affix, and the exalt stayed the same while the others moved around.
At the end of the day it sucks when it “Does nothing” from what you are using it for, but its a really powerful rune, being able to get t7 hybrid health on boots that dropped with some bunk ass stats is insane.
ah i think i ve misread the description. It just says i prevent that ALL affixes stay the same as before…
which would mean why my method did not work as i thought.
but on the other hand if I have 3x T5 and 1x T6, this T6 affix HAS to be swapped with some of the other 3 every time?
Based on the description that sounds true but it would need testing
All that the rune promises is that it won’t roll into the same state. That is, there will be some shuffling, but there’s no guarantee what will be shuffled. Might be just 2 affixes, might be all 4.
Best way to ensure that it will switch is to just get your T1 to T3. Then you’ll have a T7 and 3 T3 affixes. That means that it will change the T7 100% of the time.
You basically always want to use it on gear with T7+T1+T1+T1, T7+T2+T2+T2, etc. When you do, you have 33% chance to hit the affix you want.
so by maths If I have T6+T7 what tiers should the other two affixes be for best chance to shuffle around both exalted on desired position how i want? same tier? (like both T1) or different?
Non-exalted should always be same tier.
The reason is that the rune can shift just 2 affixes around, so if you have a T1 and a T2, it could simply switch both between themselves and leave the exalted ones unchanged.
By having all of the non-exalted ones at the same tier, you guarantee that at least one of the exalts will become a T1 and one of the T1s will become exalted.
And if you just want to switch the T6 with the T7 (which is much harder to accomplish), it would still be better to have non-exalted affixes at the same tier, because it reduces the number of possible combinations.
Makes sense, thx for explaining
No worries. It seems more complicated than it really is.
The theory behind it is also simple: since the rune can’t present the same state as it had, what we’re doing is switching between the different possible combinations.
If all tiers are different, our possible combinations are 4x3x2x1=24 possible combinations total. So the combinations we want where our affix is exalted are 6 out of 24. This would make it seem like we have 25% chance, but the fact that it can simply switch only 2 of them make it much harder to get (don’t feel like doing the actual math on that, it’s not relevant anyway). (checked the web, seems like we get 256 possible permutations).
When you start making tiers equal, though, you reduce the total number of combinations, but more importantly, you also reduce the total number of available switches.
Which means that, if you have 3 affixes with the same tier, now you only have 4 possible combinations:
-T7+T1+T1+T1
-T1+T7+T1+T1
-T1+T1+T7+T1
-T1+T1+T1+T7
And since you can’t keep the same state, when we use it we will switch to one of the other 3. So you have a 33% chance to get what you want. This is the highest possible chance you can get.