Most bad reviews happen if there are server errors at the beginning of a game or perfomence issues. LE has a different problem. A lot of ppl overhype LE and as I said many times: Some ppl would eat a poop sandwich as long as if it ws served by EHG. LE is arround a 5/10 and ppl overpraise it out of proportion.
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last epoch is my favorite arpg and i will play every season for the forseeable future so no in my case it hasn’t failed. still the most fun arpg to fuck around and make random builds in
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There’s going to be a pretty big problem going forward if they can’t regain trust. Not in a “but you promised free” way but by rebuilding retention of the player base and delivering in content, bug fixes, QoL, responding to feedback, etc
They are in a bit of a free fall right now and I’m very worried that if they can’t reestablish themselves before the dlc / expansion / PS5 release hits people will be scared to spend money on it.
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I think they are living on borrowed time. Live Service model is not working. Been saying this since forever.
Also every now and then there seems to pop out a new arpg or similar games (roguelikem, extraction) that is promising and almost certainly looks better than Last epoch.
Actually, I am impressed with Wolcen studio. They seemed to have learned from failure of their first game and their 2nd game is looking pretty good.
It’s Wolcen studios still and they don’t get another penny from me. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. They made so many questionable descissions and ruined their own game that looked promising… nah not again.
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An adult can, yes. A child just throws a tantrum.
You learn from blattant scamming?
Like… advertising a specific lighting mechanic which is a huge selling point for early adopters and then providing nothing of that in the end product?
They had a good story actually even… to the point they didn’t finish it, but their foundation was just a mess. Become weaker with leveling… a single extra-boring end-game mechanic with basically the same map repeated and game-breaking bugs like a 100% save-breaking end-game building at release? It’s a guaranteed thing and showcases they didn’t even test it at all.
That’s fundamental stuff at such a level they won’t get money from me even if they produce a masterpiece. That’s beyond the level of ‘pulling a No Man’s Sky’.
The best solution for em is to shutter their studio and work for others instead.
Huh this is so wrong from so many experiences. I just throw out one example because I’m lazy but ask every divorced person how awesome their journey was and that a bad ending isn’t o bad… just think about the good times. Sure there will be some who are happy to be finaly divorced and some that are better of but for most? You’ll have most likely 50% of unhappy people at least.
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I’m divorced, some of the journey was good, some of it was bad, the divorce itself was pretty amicable.
So no.
Good for you. I know 10 people who get devorced nad all of them are not able to think about the good times they had anymore and the only good thing for 5 of them is their life improved after the divorce.
Imagine realizing you’ve been cheated on for years.
Sure, you had fun during that time… but when finding it out any thought of that timeframe is now overshadows by ‘when we did this they actually were doing that’ putting it all into a new perspective.
So nah, you’re absolutely wrong there. Any reasonable person will see the journey with the value of the ending attached to it.
And DJ is right there: You can enjoy things when the ending sucks. But it’s not a guarantee. It depends on the situation.
And if you wait for something specific and simply are content with the ongoing state with the premise of it fulfilling in the future then obviously you won’t look back positively when it doesn’t happen.
Now imagine your ex had cheated on you during the whole time.
Would you remember the journey as ‘good’ when you now know a large portion of the ‘good memories’ actually were right before your partner hopped into the bed of another person?
‘Had a nice meal together, that was amazing! Just bad they f***** half an hour later!’ 
Exactly, there’s too much diversity in experience to say a single thing. And yes, I am definitely lucky/glad it wasn’t a nightmare.
@kulze I’m just saying that divorce is not universally the bad/painful experience that Macknum says it is. Not everything is the worst/most extreme possible version of events.
Funny story in that direction… My ex-brother-in-law was a complete man-whore, he’d fuck absolutely anything in a skirt (nice guy otherwise). His long term gf knew this & was apparently ok with it. At my wedding (Sep 2001) he came with his gf & at some point in the evening he fucked my (now ex) wife’s Russian pen friend. He’s still happily with his gf, though I assume he’s “slowed down” a bit…
So while I & I imagine a lot of people would react as you’re implying, there’s going to be a surprising amount of people that would be ok with it & not just for negative reasons (like they’re under the thumb/controlled/etc).
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Yeah and still stated in the next sentence after the part you picked to quote that there are different outcomes as well. So anything you did there was just wasting time because at least half if not most people are unhappy with it. There are studies. That’s normal human behaviour that negatives impact more and overshadow positive experiences. Sure there are still a lot of people who are happy after a divorce and not everyone is only focused on the negatives but it’s a normal thing.
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I find it hysterical that all the responses completely abandoned the fact that we are ON an entertainment forum, are currently talking about an entertainment experiences, only to jump into the most fraught and complicated experiences THAT IS DEFINITELY NOT ‘ENTERTAINMENT’ as a comparison (to wit, human relationships).
LOL, yeah, I completely agree that discovering your partner has been lying and cheating on you for your entire marriage might throw a wrench in you being able to enjoy the journey. No argument/judgement there. At all.
When I say ‘intellectual dishonesty’, this is what I’m talking about. This is what just really turns me off on trying to have a conversation online. Everyone is trying to win a debate. No one attempts, cares, or I think in most cases, is even aware of what the context of the conversation is. I guess the ‘not being in the same room’ makes it impossible for there to be a context to any conversation.
I was talking about entertainment experiences. And I was absolutely being judgmental and saying, “if you enjoyed yourself for 90% of an experience, and you let a botched finale completely destroy that… at least part of the problem lies in you”.
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ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? Uhm… no. Neither by the forum nor by the game.
If this is scumming, then most dev are guilty include EHG.
Wolcen game failed, but the team is able to learn and improve. There is virtue in it.
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They advertised for having a in-depth lighting mechanic, a specific one. Then they didn’t deliver without ever mentioning it being missing from playtest to release.
I dunno, if that’s not scamming then I don’t know what is.
And lets not start with blatant idiotic issues like completely missing QA before release. They had a end-game building which with 100% guarantee bricked your character when used, well… until they fixed it.
That means not a single test was done related to ‘is this actually functional?’.
And not even starting about nonsensical design choices, but that’s another topic by itself.
Defending Wolcen is baffling.
Worse… there have been tests and they were ignored because balance was an afterthought.
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The game has not failed but failing is in progress.
Overwhelmingly negative recent reviews on steam.
Buggy mess of game code season after season. Its well known by now. Some of the featured items for seasons as covered by streamers dont work.
Loss of little guy or independent status. You can get away with alot as the little guy. Now that you are part of Krafton and the big empire in the sky you cant.
Going back on promises about no paid content. This is abysmal by Krafton and the number 1 reason the tide has turned and players are angry.
Going to be hard to go up against POE 2 with a new druid hero where you can be a dragon. That is a killer app and is going to decimate playerbases for D4 and LE. Where is content like this for LE? Oh thats right its paid content now.
Awful roadmap that begged the question how could you possibly release that roadmap in that state. Saying S4 and S5 were coming and then having underneath subject to change? Like what in the actual $@#!?
MTX cosmetic look is circa 2010. Shop is just bad overall. You realize it still says coming soon for portrait frames???
Same campaign grind season after season with an endgame where all the fun map things you can do are blocked by rules. Its boring. IS pushing corruption all we can hope for?
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You think EHG will come up with something like this? Realy? I think EHG will stick with save skills seen many times in all kind of games rather then doing something unprooven. No shame in that but I think the Paradox classes will not reinvent anything or be that awesome.
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