I do not know what they fixed, but overall damage did not change after this patch. Mobs still do crazy amount of damage in one hit. Like 3k hits through max resist. It is 2-3 times more than in 1.2. What is the point to complain? I stopped to play. Bought support pack in poe2 and enjoy the game.
then explain why every character I have has this problem? Even my unkillable VK has it happen. Just regular enemies producing overwhelming force, then having bosses do like 50 damage. This rare does 10k damage, that rare does 150 damage. There is no consistency at all.
Patching some of the problem out doesnāt make it go away. Some isnāt all.
And when all my characters have the same problem no matter their stats? Nonsense.
Both things can be true.
People are struggling on teh way up, and you are talking about a character who had crap luck and couldnt get anything without fire resist to drop. my filter is about as refined as I can make it without cutting myself off. RNGeesus just doesnāt care. Also, pretty sure warlocks have a passively increased fire resist and necrotic resist.
Filters can only do so much, the rest is rng. if you donāt get loot, you donāt get it. AGain, when its on every character no matter their resistances?
What i am saying, is that if you canāt stop getting one-shot by random mobs, how do you ever progress to get the gear you need when you canāt stop dying?
Tuning needs to happen in addition to people getting better gear. Again, both can be true.
Overall difficulty in the campaign was increased globally. This was done by popular request of players that wanted the campaign to be more challenging. Seems you canāt win no matter what.
The campaign being hard was a separate issue from some mobs being overtuned, like the act 1 boss or the mini osprix boss before him, which was fixed.
Maybe because you donāt understand how the several layers of defence work and make the same mistakes in all of them?
I didnāt talk about any character, that wasnāt me, you got confused.
The fact that you only seem to focus on life/ward + resistances is what leads me to the conclusion that you donāt understand how defences work on LE and you assume that this is all that is required to survive.
What I am saying is that before the patch this was happening to everyone. Some mobs were overtuned by mistake due to a bug in their scaling. After the patch this is only happening when youāre not building your defences properly.
You do know that crafting exists, right? You donāt need the right resistances or affixes to drop naturally on the ground? You can add your own and also change the existing ones.
Adding health and capping resistances through crafting is something that is easily done before you even end the campaign.
After that you start to focus on the other defensive measures, like armor, reduced crit, endurance, block/dodge, etc.
And, more importantly, you start to focus on health/ward sustain/leech. Without which you will often die.
As I said, before the patch this was a bug. That was what this thread was created to complain about. After the patch, this is a build issue.
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When all of your builds have the same problem, what is the common denominator?
Iāve looked at your warlock and the EHP is shockingly low, same with your āunkillableā VK. 2k EHP isnāt remotely close to being enough and no amount of bug fixing will fix your paper defences.
you should spend less time posting walls of text and more time actually building defensive layers In to your build.
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The game. I have one character with almost capped out resistances right now, good armor, good everything. still gets one shot by a regular mob but can dunk on rares and bosses like they donāt even exist.
Thatās the game. No player can compensate for such imbalance.
I know when the problem is me and I can tell when the problem isnāt me. Itās not hard.
yet when i play my vk, hes only died three times, and all three times were to nearly 6k damage or more. Literally nobody can survive a true one-shot.
Heās not paper lol, some enemies just scale at a bs level and can one-shot literally anybody.
Again, both things can be true.
without going full-offline and modding the game, thatās not really a realistic option when you keep dying. if you die, you canāt get rewards like loot. without loot, you canāt do anything. if you die, no runes or shards or items to upgradeā¦
yeah. because we all know how when a game developer patches a problem, it goes away perfectly forever and ever and nobody ever has a problem ever again even once.
If these guys could do that, none of the other bugs would exist. Balance bugs are difficult to fix, and you know that.
When even my strongest and most durable chracter can still get one-shot by a common rat, but then take no damage against X rare but then get creamed by Y rare for seemingly no reason?
Thatās not a build issue, thatās a game issue. If EVERYTHING was one-shotting, then its on me almost for certain. But when itās arbitrary and its damage that you are protected against still killing youā¦again, not build but game.
No game is perfect, and to assume that every problem is on the player is insane.
And again, if people donāt get the gear, how can they have the stats?
You canāt work backwards, and expecting people to do so is absurd.
Both a build and still unfinished tuning can both be responsible. JFC with you guys and your weird absolutist arguments.
Despite the sarcasm, I will reply to this seriously.
There is always the possibility that some mob escaped. However, the fact that there were players complaining daily about this and that they all stopped complaining after the patch leads to the conclusion that this is a you issue.
Either youāre overshooting the corruption without being prepared for it, or you donāt have enough defences, or you simply ignore echo/rare modifiers and get surprised.
Iām currrently running 900c on a druid and there isnāt a single thing that is one-shooting me. The only attacks that can one shoot me are some Shade of Orobyss variants if Iām not paying attention or the woven echo with the evolved beasts. Both of which are expected to potentially happen.
So if youāre getting randomly one-shot by a mob, then your defences arenāt good enough against whatever that mob is doing. Because this isnāt an issue for anyone with a decent build since the patch.
Max phys hit your Vk can take is 2965. He is paper.
You absolutely can build defensively, in COF without going full offline, you just need to get better at making builds instead of writing walls of text, or maybe follow a build guide and watch a few crafting tutorials.
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Which one?
Sevilla: 16% block chance with 32%, 21% armour reduction, 0 other damage reduction, 100 stable health, maybe 2.5k ward before initiating combat, roughly estimated. 13% void resistance. 0 crit avoidance or crit dmg reduction.
Gribblebibble: 0% block, 40% armour mitigation, 1.6k health with 12% necrotic resistance. 42% crit dmg reduction.
Both your highest characters I just checked look as tanky as a wet paper towel, sorry to say.
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I was going to add to my post that it is pointless for them to lie about their characters defences as we can see all of their stats on LE tools but youāve covered it very well here.
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Is it?
Letās fact-check since everyoneās online characters are visible to everyone else!
Makes it very easy since it clearly showcases youāre a online-player, and not a offline one. Wide spread of higher level chars.
Falcobewbaz:
Shit defenses, badly chosen uniques, very odd focus of legendaries.
No res-cap, laughable.
Gribbledibble:
Awful defenses, why that unique weapon rather then World Splitter? Itās really easy to get as well and is already stronger at 0 LP then your 2 LP weapon.
Also no res-cap, especially phys not despite wearing Decayed Skullā¦ what are you even thinking?
Sanguinaria:
Once againā¦ no EHP at all, no defenses. sub 1k life while wearing Shroud of Obscurity? What the actual heck?
Only uniques?
That character is pure garbage.
Trefoil:
Finally one which at least has some res!
So lets seeā¦
Ohā¦ 1k health? Why? Ring of the Third Eye? Thatās a dead slot. Legacy of the quiet forest? Use a rare item with health and poison res on itā¦ already better then thatā¦
Also a shit build.
Trimebro:
Not even going into that one, worst of all.
Savilla:
Oh finally some HP at least! Your res sucks for phys and void, which are both prevalent.
Why the set stuff? Shatter em and put that stuff on a exalted at least, the base set items are awful, offering nigh nothing valuable.
And you canāt tell me you havenāt gotten either laddle, Maehlin or Soulfire as a 1 LP option until level friggin 85ā¦ what are you doing? At least fix your res up and get some extra HP for the ward conversion of Exsanguinous. Also use a catalyst instead of a shield, the stats there are really awful.
So yesā¦ itās your buildsā¦ not the game.
I mean, the game has serious issues in 1.3ā¦ but your builds really really suck.
Which content? My VK still runs around yawning after 1.3 dropped in 600c while having damn awful equipment.
What are you talking about? Play at 100c thenā¦ or use the level 90 timelines at 0cā¦ thereās exalteds dropping, youāre friggin CoF, use your Prophecies, do some tombs/cemeteries, RoA some uniques and get those damn class-specific idols out and use defensive ones if you die.
I meanā¦ we can expect baseline brain function to work. āI die all the time!ā āI should use defensive equipment rather then offensive thenā
But thatās seemingly to much to ask.
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100c would be a struggle with those shit builds.
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Yeah, sadly so, itās all over the place and nothing is coherent.
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yep, clearly the games fault thoughā¦
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obviouslyā¦ shouldāve secretely changed the equipment for the playerā¦ canāt be expected to think about basics.
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more absolutists arguments, yet again. Clearly people didnāt stop complainingā¦
grats, i canāt even find the gear with the resistances I need and crafting can only happen when you can break down shardsā¦if you arenāt getting shards, how can you get the things you need?
how do you not see the problem?
oh yeah, we already figured that out in another thread: you cherry pick everything and then make baseless accusations without any real evidence. Most of what you say can be countered by things that other people say above youā¦yet you still chose to type them out.
yup. literally already talked about that. Gotta read. But yet another topic with you coming in and derailing it with nonsense instead of being able to admit that both things can be happening while the devs fix the gameā¦and if we just stay silent, nothing will ever get betterā¦
I literally followed a guide, but again canāt get gear even on my lucky vk. And when enemies are hitting for 6k even when I have the resist for it? Nobody can undo that level of imbalance.
Both things can be true. I never once said I donāt need improved gear, I just can also be able to see multiple sides of the problem simultaneously.
Nothing is ever really that absolute. Yet you pretend it is. I have nothing to add.
Part rng, part poor scaling, part bad gear.
Think outside of just the one box you seem to live in.
yet in combat all of those go up in value. its why my vk has only died about three maybe four times. Just waltzing through content with him.
In practice he has more resistance than when he just stands there.
And if my vk is a wet paper towel, then what are the enemies he keeps one-shotting? He runs over elite mobs like soft cake.
AGain, when the only thing that is a threat to me is some over the top extreme overkill with 6k damage and another 2k of overkill? Tell me how much resistances you would need to survive that.
Not even joking. Give me the numbers needed to survive such a massive hit, and I swear I will never ever come complain about it again until I get to that point and still get one-shot.
Prove me actually wrong as opposed to just using common talking points that deflect.
thats teh gear I got. What do you want me to do, cheat?
is that a real question? World splitter is a uniue boss drop from abberoth. I havenāt done that, so why tf would I have the weapon?
Do you see how out of touch you are? You think I CHOSE that weapon over World Splitter? It never droppedā¦
Umā¦using what loot I get until something better comes along. again, my vk is cakewalking through contentā¦died 3-4 times ever.
because thatās what I have.
I wonāt go further. Everything you ask is a really dumb question.
Why donāt I have an item? IT DIDNāT DROP BECAUSE IT DIDNāT DROP LOL. holy crap with your logic.
both can be true. nuance is a thing. you said my vk was busted and unusable, but only died a few times and waltzes through contentā¦
So is that my skill, or is the game carrying me?
where did I once say they were great? I have maintainted, the entire time, that its the gear I get. Until better things can be crafted or found, what do you expect? And when only two characters can push content, there arenāt a lot of resources to go around.
AGain, tuning and gear can both be the problem. Not everything is black/white.
been doing that.
you thinking and being rational or logical is too much to ask, even though its the bare minimum.
FINALLY, SOME SENSE! JFC you guys.
Suggesting harder content when somebody has bad gear and the game is also bugging scaling?
yep, must be just player error and only them. not rng, not bad rolls or just nothing useful dropping. Even with prophecies, stuff doesnāt always have the stats you need. My VK picked up no less than 23 Clothoās Needle, zero of them had void damage.
Zero had void damage. Is that my fault? No, thats rng. IF things donāt drop the way you need themā¦
almost random, some would say.
I wonder what could be the cause of random gearā¦
said it about a hundred times now.
Both things can be true. Reality is not absolute. Gotta use some basic level logic here.
You want to tell me you got no rares instead of that garbage youāre wearing?
No splinters to craft?
No exalteds?
Not a single prophecy fitting for your build?
Just donāt play like shit, because it showcases really reallyā¦ you do.
One of the worst builds Iāve seen to date. And I suck at making builds.
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I keep finding the resistances I have, even after refining my loot filter from the universal one. that filter changed everything lol.
But it doesnāt change rng.
as I said above, my vk picked up 23 Clothoās Needles, none of them had void damage. It would have been better than his current weapon, but not without void damage.
they donāt drop what I need. TArgeted farming is still rng. Not sure why thatās hard to get.
I didnāt make it, it was foisted upon me by RNGeesus.
And crafting only works when you have a solid item and can break it down to get the shardsā¦which requires you to not die. my vk can only do so much farming for my alts
But I think imma go without muting the topic. Some people had a pretty solid bit of advice and I would like more of that.
Not whatever tf this bs is.
Oh come onā¦ if itās stuck at a common Affix youāre already a lost case, not even worthwhile to engage further.
Thatās simply sad.
All you need is a single rare item with T5 health and T5 res and itās superior to many many of your items.
At level 85 weāre talking of going into T7 territory commonly, not working on 2 T5 itemsā¦ you shouldāve 4T 5 items throughout the bank by then.
The statistical improbability of that to happen would make you one of the unluckiest people in existenceā¦ ever.
Youāre just incompetent, plain and simple, canāt say it milder. It is what it is.
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lol yeah. rng makes me incompetent.
Nevermind that I personally know several people who quit playing certain games because the rng wasnāt blessing them.
There are people who who can go a whole season without seeing the drops tehy need, yet you think its just a thing where you show up and get the loot you need or want.
Imagine thinking you have any control over rng.
And you call me incompetent? Wild, coming from you of all people judging by your post history. You do this a lot. Join a discussion, read a few lines, and write pages about them without considering the deeper implications of what people are actually trying to say.
The only incompetence is your reading comprehension and understanding of how rng can work.
23 clothos on a vk, not a single one had void damage.
But sure, thatās my fault too. Guess I need to pray harder to RNGeesus lol.
Maybe all those people telling me that are on to something.
I love how a few people gave me genuinely workable advice, that I already put into effect on my beastmasterā¦but for some reason I am incompetent. Those other people also told me my builds were trash while also acknowledging that rng is a cruel mistress on the best of days. Other people applied nuance and actually thought their post out and provided useful, actionable advice.
You just gibbered for longer than me, while ignoring everything else going on.
Sure.
Keep being an absolutist lol.
Nah, you blaming it on RNG is what makes you incompetent.
Common Affixesā¦ not a single 2 T5 Rare instead of garbage uniques.
Itās you. Not going into your rant there.
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