Javelin node that says -
“Ignite and bleed chance from all sources is converted to Electrify and effects related to bleed or ignite now depend on Electrify instead”
I get that it would convert stuff like bleed chance or bleed duration to Electrify chance and Electrify duration
Question is do affixes like “increased physical penetration with bleed” get converted to lightning penetration with electrify? or also Salt the Wound’s “50% of added critical strike multiplier converted to Physical penetration with bleed”?
My thoughts are that it wouldnt convert but Im really not sure
No those wouldn’t convert as they are specific to bleed.
This means effects within the skill tree reliant on bleed/ignite. Javelin does not have any such nodes but for example in Smite tree taking Order of Lagon makes the Conflagration node which more hit damage against ignited enemies change to electrified enemies.
this isnt true. all my bleed and ignite chance is definitely getting converted from all my gear, not related to the skill tree. it also doesnt mention that it’s only related to the skill tree
it doesnt say just specifically “bleed chance” it also says “effects related to bleed” im almost positive bleed duration would directly convert to electrify duration
And he is correct. Physical Pen with bleed will not get converted to Lighting Pen with electrify, unless something specifically states that.
Physical Pen is not dependent or specific for Bleed… phys pen is used for any physical source of damage really, so it shouldn’t be affected by this node in conjunction with this affix.
The bleed and ignite CHANCE (and only chance) from your equipment is, indeed, getting converted, because that’s what the node is saying, afterall. All sources means all sources.
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Not it will not. You missed the last part of the sentence…
“Ignite and bleed chance from all sources is converted to Electrify and effects related to bleed or ignite now depend on Electrify instead”
This means only that if some trigger is depending on bleed or ignite to proc, it will now depend on electrify… Note that “duration” is not an effect nor a trigger, so there’s no way it will depend on anything to happen.
For what you say to be true, the node should have something like “bleed and ignite duration stats from all sources will convert to electrify duration for Javelin”
Yes, that would be the “from all sources” bit on the conversion node. That’s what’s supposed to happen.
It does, you quoted it in your first post & as Heavy said, the “effects related to bleed” means any more damage modifiers, not ancillary effects such as bleed duration.