Kinda. Given the nodes he’s taken, when you cast Abyssal Echoes once, the skill will then repeat an additional 5 times with a 2s gap between the repeats. If you want to manually cast it again within that 10s “duration” you can & the damage will stack but the void pen won’t.
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Hey man, great build, Im using it right now. But somehow I don't have the Sigil of Hope skill and Im level 74.
Am I missing something?? Looks like a Paladin skill and not Void Knight.
You can put passive points in the Paladin tree and access Sigils.
Oh thanks! I`m new to the game, I thought we had to stick to the mastery tree.
You can access the full tree for your mastery and the lower half for the two other masteries 
At what level would you spec 15 points into Paladin for the sigil skill?
Hey boardman,
The dammit link show 2 rare weapons. You don’t use FK blade and gaspar anymore ?
Not on this build no.
Do you think using a shield is viable with this build or do you lose too much damage?
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You can for sure run a shield if you like. Still viable. Yes will be much less damage.
I really don’t get the spec on Abyssal Echoes. The node with penetration specifies that you get it when you cast it manually. So all of the speccing into the repeats doesn’t do anything, does it?
Kinda. Given the nodes he’s taken, when you cast Abyssal Echoes once, the skill will then repeat an additional 5 times with a 2s gap between the repeats. If you want to manually cast it again within that 10s “duration” you can & the damage will stack but the void pen won’t.
Neither do I understand this one. Is the wording on the skill just broken? “For each time you have manually cast Abyssal Echoes” means two things for me:
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it stacks
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Going for the specs which repeat casts for you doesn’t synergize with the penetration at all.
This thread implies that both is wrong. I’m planning on a similar Rive build and the way I’ve been considering to including Abyssal Echoes was to go for Infusion and Remains. Have it sit at 3s CD, instant cast and 4s duration of the buff. Little overlap, but it can sit on autocast and be instacasted. Am I just being misled by the node description then?
Hey welcome to the community!
- The void penetration does indeed stack. The abyssal decay damage does not.
- Thats true it doesnt but when your in bosses fights constantly attacking the mana regen is so high that i can spam it as much as i want manually so i wasnt to worried about the cost and i like the look of it going off 3x / s after several manaual quick cast.
It is defintely changable, mess around with it and find exactly what you like 
Man you’re quick. Thanks a bunch for the reply and the other one on Smite, too.
I’m still messing around and not sure where to go, torn between Abyssal Echoes and Devouring Orb (less damage but 20% MS) essentially.
But I’m understanding correctly that the pathing through Temporal Echoes basically doesn’t do anything for damage, it’s mainly fluff? Just still confused on the choice, as the alternatives are laziness with autocast or getting in some minor stuff with pulls/ignite/temporal blight. Just every other path seems to do more on paper.
There are definitely plenty of alternatives when it comes to changing out skills and swapping nodes around. These builds are not Min Maxed. Just here to lay down foundations to be built upon. I also try to change as much as possible from the previous Version when i do updates on builds so its not just a “repeat” and that’s why abyssal echoes was added on this one.
You can run Devouring orb for sure.
Not sure if I should try this or the VK Decimator. Which one does everyone prefer so far?
Hey, so I am new to this game so please excuse my probably dumb question but I just can’t figure it out.
Why do we skill Avatar of Regret? The -10% attack speed results in -10% dps with rive and the benefit is 10% more echo chance. If echo chance only means an attack gets doubled we basically get 10% chance for double damage which results in 10% dps gain. So In the end we don’t really get anything out of it.
I tried looking up the echo mechanic but did not really find anything useful so any hints or sources to get a better understanding would be appreciated.
The Avatar causes the echoes to fire off faster for more damage. Make sure you are taking all 15 points in Dread just below it. The echo chance % is key to mobs spreading the echo.
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This is only true if your attack speed is at 100% attack speed. You have much more than 100% in the build especially when buffed.
I wont get into formulas and bla bla but the more Attack speed you have over 100% the less Diminishing return that 10% is and the MOre efficient the 10% Chance to proc double damage is
Thanks for taking the time to answer. As I think I’m gonna take a rather deep dive into this game I actually looked up the damage formula and see why it makes sense.
Again, thanks for all the great builds, guides and entertaining videos.
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