Double-dipping or dev short-cut creating misleading character stats?

[washa3]

This is not true. Increases of multiple types are not multiplicative with each other. More modifiers are all multiplicative with one another (and the summed increases).

So, for a skill that has both the Melee and Physical tags,
100% increased Melee damage, and 100% increased Physical damage would be added together for the formula

total_damage = base_damage * (1 + summed_increases) * (1 + more_modifier_1) * (1 + more_modifier_2) … (1 + more_modifier_x)

Please note that the more modifiers listed could all come from the same skill tree --they’re multiplicative with eachother.

You can view the Community Game Guide to find more information on this, its a great resource. I also believe that the ingame guide goes over some of this as well.

@AndrewTilley

5.14 Increased, Added, and More

Stats and modifiers in Last Epoch can exist in 3 main categories: added, increased, and more. The category a modifier belongs to determines which step it will be used at in calculations. Not all stats will have modifiers for each category in practice.

First, all added sources of the stat are totalled together;

(5 + 2 + 3) = 10

Second, all increased sources of the stat are totalled together;

(1 + 0.05 + 0.3 + 0.1) = 1.45

Increased values are percentages, so they are converted to decimal numbers and an additional 1 is added. Reduced sources are subtracted from this same total.

Third, the total of the added sources is multiplied by the total of the increased sources;

(10 x 1.45) = 14.5

Finally, the product of the added and increased sources is multiplied by each more source;

14.5 x (1 + 0.05) x (1 + 0.3) x (1 + 0.1) = 21.77

More values are also percentages, so 1 is added each time. Less sources are also applied here as values subtracted from 1.

Note that the more sources are not added together first, which would result in a different number. If the more values in this example were totalled first, the final result would be 21.03, not 21.77.