Lot of players do not play seasons, so having end-game and leaderboards only on cycles is a bad idea for player base.
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Is there even a game that does that? Not even POE locks Endgame Expansions behind seasons.
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There is no end-game for cycles only. The only difference for now between legacy and cycle is leaderboards and fresh start.
However, cycle-exclusive content will most likely happen. There are more players that would leave the game without them than with them, as can be seen in PoE.
yes. and reason? why no leaderboards in non-season? end-game without leaderboards is non sense. do devs think in this way will force all players to play cycles? For sure I will not play seasons…
Leaderboards make no sense in non-season. No game has them because there’s no point in them. You get the first 100 or x players there and it never gets reset. Someone joins the game a year or two after launch and they have no chance to get on the leaderboard because it’s already full.
Not to mention that only a very small percentage of people actually care about leaderboards. It’s a competitive metric that most players don’t care about, since they don’t want to compete.
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Personally, I never cared for leaderboards, though I understand the appeal for others.
A leaderboard with a changing game content isn’t worth much, though. There is no valid comparison between 1.0 and 1.1 because of re-balancing, new items, new mechanics, etc.
I estimate that many people would complain about unfair leaderboards.
How would you tackle that issue on a permanent server? Would it be an issue for you at all?
Diablo 3 has leaderboards in non season and I(and lot of players) played only non-sesson. pleae do not comment if not know about aRPGs.
anyway some players will complain in season also, does not matter. even the leaderboards in non season can be reseted if big balance patch is applied, Diablo 3 do that.
It still makes no sense, like I said. If I were to log in now to D3, I would have no way to compete in the leaderboards because it would be full with people with 5k paragon and uber gear (as uber as you can get in D3) and I could never hope to beat them.
I do know a lot about ARPGs and I can tell you that non-season leaderboards is something that only D3 did (of the big ARPGs anyway). So you’re pointing out the only example that exists and on one of the biggest flops in ARPGs. Hardly an example to follow.
again, stop talking about thinks you do not know. yes, you can be in D3 leaderboards in non season without any problems if you know to play the game even with low paragon.
anyway, I hoped LastEpoch will be an alternatove for Diablo games, but sadly devs here already announced strange decissions.
The second I think that the ARPG player base couldn’t have any more weird niches. People prove me wrong
can you answer to the question: why they disable an already existing content, leaderboards, in non season? why? the reason?
cause then, why they move cycle chars to legacy? why? just delete them at the end of cycle then.
I don’t actually think that your request is unreasonable. I don’t personally see the value in it, but it seems like it wouldn’t hurt the game to have leader boards in non-cycles other than it might provide an alternative for players wanting to compete but not result in as much playtime. But that could just be justified by saying it’s respecting players’ time.
exactly this is the point, some players simply do not have time to play seasons, not that they do not want. so at least in non-season those players might target to grt in leaderboards even of that will happen after 1 year of grinding, at least they have a goal,.
There are leaderboards in legacy, its the ‘beta’ section on the ingame leaderboard bit
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