Block Player => Account Block

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Hello,

Can you make that instead of Block Player this is Account Block that will make it a LOT less anoying to keep blocking those RMT every few minute !

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Thats a perfect idea.

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Why would you think they are the same account?

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I agree whole heartidly, i am sick of blocking someone every 10 min. Off with the RMT

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If it’s a different name in chat, it’s a different account.

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Yep. You could say ‘account ban for RMT is an automatic IP address ban’ but they’re likely using VPN, and that would unfairly punish everyone else using that VPN service. You could say ‘MAC address ban then, at least make them purchase a new network card or new PC’ but they’re almost certainly running VMs (likely a lot of them) and swapping to a new VM is trivial to do.

I’m not saying they shouldn’t do those things, making them buy a new copy of the game and spin up a new VM every time cuts into profits and makes it more likely it won’t be worth it and they’ll move onto another game. Just saying it’s possible, even likely that anything you can think to do to combat the RMT is already occurring. It’s just that those engaging in RMT sales have been around the block a few times and are already taking common countermeasures into account and are prepared for them, so it’s a minor speed bump at best.

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How are you making more than one “Account” with each active game though? Pressing “Manage Account” will bring you to their website but require “Steam” to access and you can’t spoof that. Is there some other workaround you are aware of?

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Weird I have to ask twice so maybe one of you will know?

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iirc, when first backing the game, it was later available in beta without using Steam. At least, I accidentally had two accounts because I backed it before, later forgot, and bought another beta-access, so had two separate accounts. Don’t know if it has since all been forced into starting through Steam, but I do remember logging into both accounts after I realised what I did.

Also, isn’t it possible to have more than one Steam account?

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It has, you can’t access the game without having linked your steam account.

Given steam accounts are free, yes. You’d just probably need separate email accounts for each steam account, but they are also free, so…

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Just a small sidenote: you can change your MAC address at any time you want. You don’t even need a hack, just use Windows device manager.

RMTers use stolen credit cards and other illicit monetary means and they simply buy new accounts. As long as they get more money from the transaction than they do from the account cost, it’s worth it.
Considering this happens in every single game that has trade in it, whether it has an upfront cost or not, we can safely assume that it’s worth it for them to do so.

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I’m for UUID bans for RMT and botting.
You RMT? No problem, your GPU is forever locked from this game! Lets see you making a new account, go ahead and buy it, oh? Well, that one’s banned too now!

That’s how it should be handled nowadays, also screws over scalpers since nobody will buy a used GPU without checking first if it’s one from a darn bot-farm.

Yes, multiple Steam accounts. Those accounts usually are throwaway accounts or at times even hacked accounts abused for their services.

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I’d be more in belief of that statement if this was say Diablo II or a title where the entry isn’t over $40.

You all do realize that you can buy Gold and not be banned right? Doing it through their MG auction house?

I’d start there if they want to get some sneaky bans off. Everything else is easily traceable and this factual evidence has been this way with Last Epoch for a long time now. Has nothing to do with stolen credit cards rofl or the like. Short of if someone gets social engineered through something like a link, email or some other stupid thing.

Feel free to show me some receipts or try to prove the MG Gold Purchase method as being Bannable (which it isn’t).

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I get that, but both the responses are just conjecture. Sure, I see folks making steam accounts but paying Premium for a game where you can easily choose a cheaper option and sell for more money for your time? Especially where anything outside of MG Gold RM Transfers will get you flagged anyway. It’s been discussed.

Everything stated by both of you we could say for a title in the past like Diablo II:R, Diablo II:LoD. Sure, it’s just for your time invested I don’t see LEs only uncontrolled method being a win/win.

$30 Cad used to get you 2B Gold, it now gives you more than 3.4B Gold. I expect that to continue. You seen what you could make in even WoW by just running even a single Booster? Way more and no risk.

Just doesn’t feel like LE is the sweet spot. ESPECIALLY since they actually started enforcing RMAH style transactions. I guess we will see how the company handles it because a lot of players are also not going to be doing seasons, myself included.

You can also checkout how popular the sales are through any of the main half-dozen sites most folks use and see how popular the sales are. Since the Banning has started you compare to another similar title that doesn’t and it’s big. I haven’t looked into if folks are using bots either, so there could be another avenue that is or isn’t policed similar to the Gold Selling.

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First, LE costs less than 35, not 40. Second, D4 has RMT and it’s 70. So that doesn’t really have anything to do with it. As long as you make more than the game cost before getting banned, it’s still worth it.

That’s how RMT operates and when the devs detect such an operation, you do get banned.

There are lots of scams where people get credit card information. Those are usually used for more illicit stuff like other scams or RMT trading.

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  1. LE is $40 here in Canada. Weird you couldn’t figure out folks aren’t all Statesmen.

  2. The Gold Buying through MG isn’t the same as getting the Items. Which flags you. I wonder how someone could know first hand though? Guess we won’t know without cluing in?

  3. Scams are scams my guy, they aren’t sure fire ways of income guaranteed and folks wise up after they get burned that first time. Substantially different than running a bot, or buying Gear Posted on MG using Cash on a site? The operation cost is different, substantially! See #2 for the way folks aren’t getting banned.

How does someone with MG 1 and CoF 10 have 3B+ Gold even at 260+ hours and 110+ Tabs? I’ll let that one sink in. They started good, but are missing a lot. Sorry my guy but you can glance at someone who is MG 1 and uses it for Gold Buying specifically super easy also. Which is why this should be brought to their attention.

Unreal. Edit: Sorry $44.99. Good lord.

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1-I’m in Europe. Weird how you couldn’t fiture out folks aren’t all Canadians and Americans.
2- Gold buying works by placing a crappy item for sale for x gold (however much you’re buying). It doesn’t matter if it’s direct sale or not, the method is the same.
3- If scams (and RMT) weren’t profitable reliably, they wouldn’t exist since they wouldn’t be worth the risk. And yet they do exist and are rampant these days.
Even if you were to argue that there’s a workaround to being detected buying gold (which I doubt there is, just because EHG doesn’t announce bans doesn’t mean they don’t happen), all the bot accounts are constantly getting banned, so they’d still need to keep buying the game.

I’m pretty sure EHG is much more aware of RMT tactics than you are. It’s their game, they have access to all the data and probably know of dozens of different ways RMTers are using that you don’t know.

As I said, RMT is a profitable business. Account costs are just an overhead for them. They get more from free games like PoE, most likely, but game costs don’t really matter to them as can be seen by the fact that D4 also has RMT, like I mentioned before and you ignored, despite costing upwards of 70.

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Yup, I know it’s the first question I’d ask if I were buying a used GPU - “So, has this GPU ever been used in a bot farm or banned from these [insert list here] games?” I’m sure nobody would ever lie about that.

No, how it should be handled is people not botting & the like. But that’s as likely as telling the truth that the GPU you’re buying from them was used in a bot farm.

Umm, saywhatnow?

Yes, it’s almost like you clarified the currency rather than using the generic symbol most commonly attributed to your larger southern cousin.

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  1. That is a moot comment, why retort when you were dumb enough to state the game isn’t $40 somewhere on the Globe let alone Canada? ROFL!

  2. Gold Buying works buy placing an order on a site, then the guy will ask you to list any item. BUT you need to be MG 1 to do so. You can place any item and list it at a specific Value and they will find that value and buy it.

This hasn’t changed since the advent of this type of RM Transaction. That is where folks are getting their Gold From with no Bans.

RM Purchasing of Gear through avenues of Gifting and Low Gold Buyouts is where folks are getting flagged. I can’t mansplain this garbage out any more for you and I won’t get further into that discussion on these forums. But real, factual evidence is pretty much what I have. Hence why I said, this needs to be brought to their attention.

  1. RMT and the whole industry’s advent is easily within my age. I have seen it all, been a part of both sides and know all the in’s and out’s too. It’s awfully basic. The game itself has changed in the way they monitor things. From no monitoring to about 50% or less being monitored properly and then acted upon. LOTS of room for improvement here.

We don’t need announcements to know they are banning people and my statement in the previous response under #3 about being MG 1 and CoF 10 while having 3B + 110+ Tabs at 250+ hours is literally impossible. You cannot do that without buying gold. You’d be running at a 175,000 Gold+ Deficit with the Tabs alone!!!

I get that you are trying to defend them for some reason but sorry there are glaring issues still with their anti-cheating methodology. I hope they resolve it but it isn’t working. Getting a fix for buying Gold is HUGE. Why? Well next season I could buy 2B gold very early and then just stick to CoF and have a decked out character through crafting who is done content faster than anything else. I’m not sure how me even discussing this would be a negative.

Lastly as for the end there. If this was brought to their attention then some folks you are talking to wouldn’t be talking to you as their accounts wouldn’t allow them probably on these forums. You catching the clue yet?

As I said. “Unreal” and that statement sticks. This industry is what it is, don’t try to change that with conjecture man.

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It can’t be done. If there’s trade, there will be RMT. If you plug a way to RMT, they will find another. You can’t ever stop RMT. As can be seen that no game has managed to do so, ever.
You can make it harder or less profitable. But you’ll never get rid of RMT as long as there is trade in the game.