Because those pesky employees keep on demanding to be paid! How unreasonable is that!?!?
Either you missed the point, or you are saying just to say something.
I may remember wrong but This game is advertised as Independent! Check backâŚ
If the game is doing well => generating revenue => people paid!
If you want mooooore than it is an other issue.
Considering that the aquisition is being followed by a hiring spree, Iâd say the goal for it is to increase the team so they can put out more and (preferably) better content faster.
Which they likely wouldnât be able to do with the previous revenue.
I hope that is the case.
But as far as I know I doubt it. So I hope they prove me wrong xd
By not interfering enough?
Yes⌠yes they are.
Krafton is the opposite though⌠they cause failure by interfering actively.
I would rather have a company fail through their own problems then through meddling, at least one can say that the people making the product then are responsible for the failure.
So lemme get this straight⌠and Iâm not speaking against your theory there⌠but just that itâs a bit⌠short-sighted if thatâs the case 
EHG has an issue with their content production, itâs too slow, too low quality and too low in scale.
Hence they expand their company in major ways⌠until it reaches 100 people.
EHG still is unable to compete with other games in the sector despite ramping up their workforce. Now they got to pay the money which competitors have to pay but their results are below them.
So first off⌠the proper solution wouldâve been to stay small and rework the pipeline entirely to ensure scaling with size will scale production rather then causing issues with the company setup causing it to crawl to a halt.
Systems exist, they clearly havenât been used, hence a mistake in management. This is the top-brass job there to handle⌠or to pay a single person to ensure those things are properly checked and prepared beforehand.
This has not been done or someone is in for a major sueing as well as loosing a license as they broke their contract in a major neglicent way.
So it hasnât been done, we donât see that.
That means EHG scaled up without proper preparation⌠and your argument is that theyâre potentially wanting to scale up further then that without having the preparations which clearly fail already failing? Rather then stepping back accordingly - like they shouldâve done after 1.0 and 1.1 already, which caused the issue to the long timeframe needed towards 1.2 - they hence push even further forward while their foundation crumbles?
Yes, possible, but dumb, utterly and entirely dumb.
Consoles are a small-scale aspect of revenue, need extreme resources and time and putting this garbage piece of spaghetti code over to it without fixing the core issues first? Thatâs a recipe for disaster.
But yes, thatâs part of their official reasoning.
So, EHG wasnât able to handle PC with a single focus currently. They were unable to fix balance, they werenât able to finish campaign, they werenât able to stop double-dipping of factions, they werenât able to keep repeating market destructive exploits away, they werenât able to provide high-quality designed changes (Boss Ward is a factually different design methodology then what DR was, not a exchange), providing a functional long-term economic system, upkeeping relevance of older designed systems through future-scaling.
And they want to add another construction site?
If that upholds actually as the reason - which it isnât likely to be the real reason mind you - then the product is doomed to fail.
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BS, Guillemot didnât need any help doing that!
If you think Tencent doesnât interfere, they got you fooled.
But thatâs neither here nor there, the point is that now that Krafton owns EHG, Lost Epoch is finished. Itâs a dead game, itâs going to be a MTX farm.
Which is very fair to mention.
But the difference still is that one company knows when to keep the grubby hands away from the european gaming market - tencent - so as to not overdue it⌠and the other even manages to piss off the korean market - Kraftong - despite the monetization there being so rampant itâs been normalized.
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Not likely. But, if it ever does, in the words of Judd himself, then donât give any cent to the game. Judd did reply a lot to people asking questions about it during the stream and that was one of the things he said.
Judd and the EHG team in general still remain firmly against any P2W features. And he explicitly said that if you ever see something like pets giving you more damage or something similar, then stop giving money to LE.
Given that stance, I doubt things will change much in their approach to LE while it keeps growing.
Forcing changes like that would likely simply cause most of the players to leave (and likely most of the team), which would likely kill the game and they wouldnât get a return on the investment.
Judd ainât likely going to be working for EHG. If he donât play ball, theyâll replace him. Like they did with the Subnautica team. They pushed back on Kraftonâs plan, and they got kicked to the curb.
Thereâs a lawsuit happening because of it. I donât think Judd and crew has the money to fight KraftonâŚ
The main problem with this entire thing is that they get the final word on stuff. If Judd & the entire EHG team doesnât want something but Krafton wants it, itâs going to be implemented.
People would likely panic a lot less if part of the buyout included a contract that restricts Krafton from making major changes in EHGâs development direction, however Judd himself confirmed that they get the final say on everything without limits.
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Sure. But if they want to implement something that is contrary to their vision or something they feel will harm players (like P2W), then they will leave and so will the players.
So Iâm pretty sure Krafton isnât just going to hamfist changes into LE. Not unless LE starts going under.
You mean like the did with Tera Online? 
Yep, no track record of the publisher doing that.
And before you say âBut thatâs maybe the devs fault!â.
No⌠no it isnât, thatâs exactly the QA which a publisher is supposed to provide if thatâs the case⌠so either/or Krafton screws up.
Voting with your wallet will bring upon the self fullfilling prophecy. If LE does not make money even heavier micro plans will come. It is their schema to go with struggling games they own.
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And choosing that route is the result of them teaming up with a very hated company.
Who do you wanna line your pockets with is the question here⌠and the answer for many is âNot a well-known company that had either their hands directly in the downfall of fantastic products or failed to stop itâ.
Which is a acceptable state.
You canât fault anyone for not throwing money in the direction of another product which now has a significantly lower chance for turning into the end-result they want.
So no, the customers are not at fault for it, itâs the actions leading to this point and the action of teaming up with Krafton itself. The only reason it could stay is if Kraftong - for a change - actually does their job towards the customer well, but that would be a new outcome we havenât seen yet.
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Wow spoken like one that is clueless about who krafton is as a company. And there track record. If u really arent clueless u wouldnt have said any of this
Dude they are knowen for interfering even when things are going good. Please do ur research before u start talking out of ur ass and formlating an opinion on something u have no knowledge of.
Sinking??? Dude judd admitted to this in the announcement of the krafton deal. They were already sinking. The gsme in reality isnt growing at all.
Take ur rose tinted glasses off
Edit.
Nor would u be saying this either.
Right not like they havent done this to many other studios they hava acquired before.
There track record doenst support what u believe is going to happen. Tbh ur lack of knowledge about krafton really shows here
Starts going under. Reality is they already are going under. See the announcement judd admits it
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Because it isnt doing well. Judd admits this in thd announcement thread about this.
It was said in the tell me without telling me way.
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that is beyond OUR control. we can only control our wallet.
i really do not blame EHG for selling their game. i would have done that in a heartbeat.
but with that, it doesnt automatically mean the game is going to be bad.
it COULD be bad. but it also could be good. if EHG continues to shit out GOOD content. then vote with your wallet.
if EHG shits out shit content. then vote with your wallet.
i used to be one of GGGâs whales. i actually jedi mindtricked myself âi ll just buy this cool looking cosmetic just to support GGG as theyâre cool, the money given to them is like treating a friend a meal rather than me wasting it on something elseâ. 10 years after the game released the game kept evolving away from what i loved.
a very expensive tuition fee to which i learned that one should not be too invested in game companies.
if EHG fails because of the buyout. at the very least the devs got a nice payout. as for the game itself. i m just waiting to let them cook. i probably will jump back in for S3 but whether i buy a supporter pack or all depends on if i feel that the game direction is going my way.
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I do!
Why?
They made a kickstarter promise, they got money for that, they didnât uphold it.
If you take money in return for a promise of a end-result it is the responsibility of you to provide that end-result. This responsibility was avoided and hence a promise broken.
What if EHG hasnât even reached the starting line promised yet? But showed promise in Early Access?
Thatâs the issue with it, legal lines related to kickstarters and early access need to be far tighter, with much more pressure put onto the relevant people taking said money, to enforce them to take a risk related to the resources taken from others.
Which is only fair, wouldnât you think so? But itâs not reality⌠not yet at least.
like it or hate it. kickstarters are all gambles. i took a quick look at their kickstarter page. theres many things changed/missing from it. but at the very least you got a game that is very much playable out of it.
Similar to kickstarters, EAâs are also gambles. whenever you put down cash for a kickstarter or EA, you have ZERO assurance that the game will come out the way it was originally pitched. itâs a âtrust me broâ sort of deal.
not saying that devs SHOULD deliver, but theyre not required to.
i m not trying to defend EHG on this. i would prefer if they did deliver, but thats the nature of kickstarters/EA. whatever we got on the 1.0 launch is the game that they wanted to deliver. everything else we get from then onwards is a bonus. everything promised before probably are compromised. like the passive system. it was meant to be grid like where itâs more similar to POE rather than it is now. PVP was slated too. but all that are battles already lost.
1.0 is the official launch and is the game as intended for sale.
if you arent happy with all that was lost/didnât make it from kickstarter/EA era. its sad to say but it is what it is. if you already bought the game its too late.
the only thing you can do is vote with your wallet for further support of the game.
i dont know how much you dropped on LE. but i can assure you, i learned this same lesson
Iâve been whaling for GGG so damn much. my real name is in POEâs credits and iâve spent much more than i should have. I dont like that people have to pay such tuition fees to learn this lesson. but it is what it is
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