Avalanche and Earthquake semi-Infinite Loop?

I’m working toward this interaction atm, and I’m 99% sure it won’t actually create a loop (but then again, based on the node descriptions, it should create a loop).

The nodes in question are Snowcrash for Earthquake (Aftershocks have a 200% chance to drop Avalanche Boulders, so minimum of 4 boulders per Earthquake), and Crater for Avalanche (every 3rd Large Boulder creates an Earthquake).

Since Snowcrash doesn’t specify what size boulder, I’m assuming it’s the Large Boulder which should create a loop as long as you have the mana to sustain it. Am I missing something?

The boulders fron Snowcrash aren’t large by default, you need the node in Avalanche that has a % chance to upgrade normal boulders to large.

I had a Bug druid in bug form with some idols to give me aftershocks on melee hit (>100% chance) with 2 boulders per aftershock. You’ll definitely need quite a lot of mana on hit to keep it going but it is amusing when it does.

1 Like

So the node creates small boulders, small boulders have a chance with some investment to become large boulders, then you need 3 of them to hit an EQ.

it wont loop purely because I think at max its like 20% chance to upgrade a small boulder to a large? so you need to proc a sizeable amount of smalls to get a large, and 3 large to get an EQ.

but there is a way to combine this kinda stuff. there is aftershock on melee hit idols up to 100%, so then you get an aftershock every melee hit, which drops boulders. you can further spec these boulders to become large and maybe trigger an EQ. but otherwise you can simply spec your EQ around aftershocking, and your avalanche around small boulders and just proc tons of after shocks and boulders without ever casting EQ or Avalanche.

its just… not very good because attack + spell scaling is donky on shaman.

2 Likes

You could convert EQ to spell, or not & save the points & just use the melee attack as a way to proc aftershocks & boulders. And Tornadoes if you use the Rile of the Simoon gloves.

Yeah, the intent was to use Gathering Storm to build stacks and dump them with Earthquake. Aftershocks centered on Totems that drop boulders, boulders dropped around Storm totems (my only totem) get buffed and all boulders have a chance to grant Storm Stacks, the “loop” was just a “wait, would this work the way I think it does?”

This is another node that needs a description update though, Snowcrash (and I’m assuming the Boulder Idols) should clearly state it drops small boulders as every instance of “Boulders” in Avalanche’s tree is “large or small” unless stated otherwise (i.e., large boulders create frozen ground | small boulders have a chance to be large boulders).

Anyway, I’ll just salvage the Crater points and put them elsewhere. Thanks for confirming you two!

My first Abby kill was done with this kind of loop many months ago :roll_eyes:
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/BZgrwVDo
As I remember - mana sustainability was quite a problem

Here’s my planned build (planned before leveling so it’s just skills/passives aside from the relic that i saved so I would remember what it was lol)

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Q9MxGKGQ

I plan the build before playing it, so I’ll be editing it as I go. This is after adjustments made from the results of this thread having me drop the Crater node from Avalanche