Not that wasted as some may think 
Edit, Ive been running smth like this in 1.1 and it was okish:
I have run fire, and ice versions, either way it is a net loss using aarons. In every version I have tried changing out the 3 golems for 9 skeles and they ended up killing everything faster. Although the cold version works well with the new weavers staff. It seems Aarons was just an item that was put in to sacrifice for flavor. It should be a very clear increase not just less screen clutter if you are sacrificing a body slot and either 2 rings or an entire specialization
Well my main idea was to have two builds in one. Just by swaping chest piece I can be back in my skele build This way I have two nice Nekro builds in one
I am not optmised for 1.2 cause I am now testing new forge guard stuff and it so dope that it will take awhile before I came back to my still crappy (in comparison) skeletons 
I was trying to get away from skeletons as I hate them and wish certain nodes would burn in the fires of the abyss. For anything piece of gear or point i put in it MUST give a good justification to why it is put into the build, if the justification is feels or looks. then honestly it does not belong in the game if you can objectively pick better. if you have a skill that does say 100 fire damage and have nodes that increase damage by 15% and another that changes it to necrotic damage and 10% increase per point with say at 5 points it does something else then thats worth it… however if you have something that does 100 damage and you WASTE a point to make it change to purple color vs white or like Dread phalanx cut half your minions loosing 20% of your damage in the process then it is not worth it and should be removed as it is a noob trap
You are right. Still sometimes when you reach certain level of CC you can just have fun with the build and try not so optimal things… In 1.1 for me 600cc was optimal to get good drops and also having fun. In 1.2 though with sentinels buff… it is more in like 900cc. I am not sure if I will be able to push skeles that far
I can’t really talk about how good or bad it is, since I don’t play summoner builds.
But this is a Creator Unique (A community member made it).
It is more about the theme and playstyle rather than pure power.
I hope we get a lot more of these type of items. And as long as the creator of the item is happy with it, the rest doesn’t really matter to be honest.
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So if someone made a unique that was actually garbage but they were happy with it, you’d be ok with it diluting your loot pool (since it’s so weak it’d drop a lot).
IMO, every unique needs to be good for/at something, I don’t mind that being very niche, but it does have to exist.
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I wouldn’t mind yes, but there is also a big difference between garbage and not top tier^^
I think EHG would actively say something if during the design process the creator wants to make an item very very weak.
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I never said top tier but a joke item should not be allowed. At this point the item is a joke. People see the item and think this could be really cool they get all hyped, spend a ton of time and effort to get all the pieces to line up perfectly … and find out it is basically a nerf or a cosmetic change. Its the same with you saying trap nodes are good for the game they make people feel bad and then avoid it in the future. Sorry but no Traps should not be in the game. What is worse is people will try and claim but its goooooood use it, or but but my fe fees. NO if an item is taking away stuff it needs to give more than it takes away period as it is not only changing how something works it is completely removing something else. if i gave you a skill that forced you to only have 4 specializations then it damn well better give a hell of a benefit and not just 5-10%. With it giving basically a 300% buff to a skill it is not enough, not for the opportunity cost of chest slot and either 2 ring slots OR an entire specialization. If the increases for damage and such in skeleton tree applied to golems then it would be acceptable. As is… joke item
Until you kill Aby with skellies, I guess it’s not.
Been there done that, and faster than with golems, much faster
The “top tier” was directed at Llama’s hypothetical case.
Items and buidls will always be on a spectrum. You think the item is a joke and many peopel disagree with you. I saw so many people playing that build are are totally happy with it.
So just because you don’t like it or can’t make it to work properly doesn’t mean its a joke.
Not sure where the trap nodes are coming from now, but that might be a different discussion, depending on what you mean with trap nodes.
This Unique fundamentally changes how you build your character and skills and that is what build defining uniques should do and this one dod a good job at that.
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If all you care is about damage and speed, then we should get rid of all minion uniques and just keep wraithlord helmet then.
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And you, with that comment right there is the reason it cant get better. you love the feels and when someone states something you dont like you try and flip the table
What are you talking about “the feels”?
Playing skeletons feels different than playing wraiths.
Playing abomination feels different than playing zombies.
Playing golems feels different from playing mages.
Even playing multiple mages feels different from archmage.
You choose your build to play based on “feels” always. It’s what “feels” fun to play. Some are stronger, some are weaker. It doesn’t make them any less valid as long as they can do the content you want them to.
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That is not what i meant and you damn well know it so stop trying to straw man. If you cut the damage but make it less screen clutter just to have 2 more big shiny things that is for the feels. I generally use dread phalanx as a good pointer as cutting your damage in half then increasing it by 80% while also cutting the debuf stacks you inflict in half is not worth the wasted point just to get rid of screen clutter. Likewise removing either 2 ring slots or an entire specialization for 2 golems which is a massive reduction in potential damage and debuffs just because you feel better with the 2 extra golems that is feels… its objectively a crap choice.
Personally I want the items and skills to be brought up, but with people touting that everything is fine while everyone else gets buffed is like saying everything is fine walking from Florida to Cali when others are getting cars or others (rogues) are getting jets but you are completely fine walking and even saying it makes you stronger and better because it makes you try harder.
Considering that I haven’t seen a single person complaining about it in 2 years, I’d say it’s less of a problem with the unique or the build and more you having a problem with it.
It seems likely that you had your build, put on Aaron’s Will, didn’t immediately get results and didn’t bother building for it.
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I agree with this. I play fire summons on my Necro. Lvl 97. I use Aarons Will, but the extra golem node in the tree so I have 4 smaller golems, 2 wraiths, 5 mages, and that curse puddle on right click instead of zombies. I like the playstyle of debuffing enemies while the summons go get them.
I also enjoy the Abomination build, but I find the one large minion just can’t be everywhere at once when I’m farming and I tend to get clipped by mobs he misses.
May not be the best builds out there, but it gets the job done well enough, and there’s not so much on the screen that my friends can see what’s going on. The biggest complaint my friends had with my skele builds was they couldn’t see anything happening while my minions were blowing up the world.
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No, I did the exact opposite, i started with aarons will golem build then was swapping out from there, which makes it even worse. and people did complain but way to many fanbois were like ooooo more golems and made meh golem builds.
@Sarkman you do realize that you gutted your golems even further with that node as it applies the negatives to all your golems. with 1 golem and taking that node its already not great but now you take the stats from multiple golems to make one more.
Not in the forums, they didn’t. Nor in the discord. Maybe on some remote corner of reddit there were 2 or 3 people complaining.
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