Exactly. I agree 100%. It’s one of the reasons I stopped “buying” games on Steam ever since they started disclosing you’re just buying a license to play the game rather than owning them. I only buy games on GOG or alternatives that offer the EXE file so I’ll actually own the game. I refuse to play MMO’s and games of that sort cos those are the games that have a higher probability to get ruined like you described.
This is also why I won’t be supporting LE anymore, as I don’t want to waste my time and money on a game that has a very uncertain future. I’ve already fell for that trap many times in the past, leaving a bitter taste, so I’d rather not go through that again to be made to feel stupid for trusting their words.
And reading the PR speak from the founder (not owner anymore) just made me think this new route they’re taking with Krafton won’t end well. I hope I’m wrong, and if I am, no harm no foul, I still have the game and I can re-install and play. But looking at the trends in the gaming industry and Krafton’s track record, I might as well admit defeat and move on to other games.
Wow I went on vacation July 25th I turned 40. I had a blast at Universal Studios even tho I past a kidney stone which hurts like hell. Then I came home today and read this. This hurts more then the kidney stone. Because when big companies buy smaller ones it always ends badly for the players. I understand it helps with development for the game and being able to push it over the finish line in a way. I don’t know how things were for the studio before this like financially and such but I feel like you could have waited to see how things would have went after season 3 launched. I guess we will see how the upcoming seasons go after 3. It is a sad day. Reading the repeating comments from the previous owner is a huge disappointment. Just the normal BS PR replies now. Same meaning regardless of how it is worded.
D2 changed a lot since it came out 25 years ago tomorrow (of all days!).
It splits the community & I’d imagine that there’s probably a dwindling acquisition rate for subsequent expansions as people don’t like one & then don’t buy the next one because they didn’t buy the last one. New players might feel like there’s a much larger price to pay if they don’t start at launch because they feel that they “need” to buy all of the previous expansions.
Yes, as someone who didnt get into grimdawn till later, and only has the base game, im 99% sure the game is carried by the expansions. As I dont have good experience with grimdawn, and lots of builds I see online engage with the two dlc based classes. probably for obvious reasons, they were made later and thus are probably slightly more interesting.
At the end of the day, it sucks because I will not buy the two dlc, I didnt enjoy the base game. DLC shouldnt fix a game.
So yeah, I think while dlc works, it wouldnt in the case of a game making updates at the rate of LE. hell even if LE only wanted to release updates every 6months that would be a lot of cash to expect from every player who wants to engage with it.
Tho on the main topic, I think them looking for this kinda deal in the first place tells me finances are not doing so hot, and their pay model isnt doing so well. I certainly in the 3k hours have only spent like 70 dollars, the mtx just isnt there yet where as poe I wanna buy something new every season it feels like.
But they cant go back, history cant be rewritten, if LE was f2p with stash sales like poe, I think maybe they would float better. But they cant really go to that model now, people would riot.
I am not happy with that decision… I hope I am wrong…
To support EHG’s independence, I tried to buy as many support packs as possible. But now, my previous contributions feel meaningless! Why did you need more money for a game that was already doing well? Why?
I happily backed the Kickstarter campaign and bought supporter packs to support the vision of a passionate team. It hasn’t always been easy but I’ve never doubted the project and I’ve been delighted at how the game shaped out and the potential it has.
And now it’s part of a company that will obviously change things further down the line. Announcement, mixed reactions, reassurances, … and later it turns out it wasn’t exactly true. It’s the same cycle that has happened many times before to games I’ve supported one way or the other. Maybe that’s just my pessimism ?
I will keep playing, after all it’s the only ARPG for me that scratches the itch, but, still, I am disappointed.
not sure if someone already mentioned this but I just want to point something out. ehg knew this was going to be the response from their player base and they did it anyway.
Yeah, assumptions have led many astray. You are assuming that they are intentionally saying that they don’t care about their clients (players). But when you made the statement you made is a fact, which you don’t know is fact.
It’s quite obvious. If players/consumers know Krafton is bad news, you don’t think a game dev who are imbedded in the gaming industry didn’t know of Krafton’s reputation? Do you think they’re dumb? Do you think they make these huge decisions without thinking how people will react?
Why is it almost always people with a million badges that come to white knight this decision?
If they knew then it’s just worthless PR talk, something that can inherently not be trusted.
If they didn’t know then that would make them utter morons, beyond anything even reasonable acceptable, it’s on the level of a granny getting scammed by a persian prince in need through Western Union.
Gotta turn on a single brain cell to realize the repercussions, once.
So which do you think is the more likely option? The leadership of EHG being utter morons or them doing some PR talk as it’ll at least appease a few people and knowing full well how the reaction will be?
And which one do you think is the better option?
Both entail negative aspects to a massive degree… one is actively deceit to spin a negative situation into something positive… which is a disgusting thing to do.
The other is so moronic that one shouldn’t trust in them anyway.
He’s another super backer. He wants to justify the money he spent. I have a feeling this entire thread will just be a repeat of this over and over again.
This isn’t “white knighting”, this is about people doing things like you are doing right now, making assumptions that they “know” the truth which they have no way of actually knowing unless they can read people’s minds or those people actually said it.
Assumptions are not facts, they are what someone believes is or may be the truth. There’s nothing wrong with stating what you believe is true, but saying it’s a fact is entirely different.
It doesn’t matter what I “think”, I can’t state that as fact. That’s the issue I’m driving at here, making statements based on assumption as if they are fact. As I said, assumptions are not facts, they are simply what someone “thinks.”
No, I’m not about justifying anything. I’m merely saying people need to understand the difference between what they think and what is fact. They could be the same thing but they have no way of knowing that and making a statement that they “know” something that they really don’t have any way of actually knowing at this time.
