You’ve been here long enough to know that trying to reason with this “community” is pointless.
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Apparently it’s not, turns out it’s a labour of big bucks. With todays’ gaming landscape, are you surprised?
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If you can’t understand that tencent and Krafton are bad companies while Krafton has active lawsuits against them for clearing out entire games development leaderships so they don’t have to pay agreed to bonuses then keep your head buried in the sand. If you’ve ever even touched Poe you’d know it’s trash now and those spikes are the same small groups of homers coming back every patch. Keep fanboying and thinking EHG did something good here. You’ll either figure it out soon enough or you’ll be another one of those spike members swearing the game is still good when everyone else who can actually think have moved on to better things.
And ya let’s ignore the huge dip in 2024 because it doesn’t support your narrative. They haven’t put out a good or original patch in years. No new skills just cosmetics and some terrible league mechanic that homers rush to because they have no life and nothing else better to do. Enjoy what Krafton does here. You deserve it.
You know im not a fan of this situation, but your a schizo bro haha.
PoE is doing fine. PoE2 despite the hate from poe1 players does really well among non poe players. its a restart for them, and its doing fine.
Tencent also invested into EHG so if you like anything thats happened for like the past 2 years for LE, then tencent was involved.
Tencent is fine, they own a billion games and most of them are fine. Krafton seems kinda crappy.
But this entire rant about PoE being dead and the numbers being “fake” is some crazy shit, you need to take your meds bro
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Krafton literally destroyed games and studios, they did the same with the creator of Dead Space, they replaced him with Steve who got into Calisto Protocol and it was a total failure, now they fired the founders of Subnautica, and they brought in guess who, Steve again… I understand the need to look for partners to develop the game and give it a future, but Krafton is branded as a company that destroys studios, I don’t think you are stupid and unaware of these antecedents, surely they took precautions and clauses in the face of Krafton’s negative history, for my part I will continue playing and hoping that the game continues to shine, but the day they lose the direction they are on due to the policies that Krafton tries to implement, I will forget them.
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Friend, take your medication or try to find help to release your frustration elsewhere. How many players are there currently in LE? Do you realize that those of us who play Poe, Poe2, LE, Torchlight are the same? We migrate to each new league that comes out. And we enjoy the game for a month or two when the leagues are exceptional. You have to seek help to release your frustration.
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Enjoy your dead game. Just like Poe fans who have been screaming for months about canceled leagues and leagues with no content all in favor of poe2 so they can demonetize the same players they’ve already drained. You’re clueless.
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you guys not watching the PUBG Nations Cup? These guys are crazy. It’s a huge game lol
It wasn’t stated that Tencent isn’t a bad company, don’t get me wrong… it is.
But it’s not at the level of Krafton. One is awful for data collection measures and monopolization… the other is bad for mismanaging and actively forcing studios to close.
Yeah, they just duplicate seemingly, that’s why the number becomes bigger rather then smaller. Also not a single person seemingly left… not a single person came in… right? 
Also ‘it’s trash now’… what parts exactly? Be a bit specific. There’s loads of issues with the game and loads of good things, which exactly are you talking about?
There was no fanboying.
There was clearing up misinformation.
Which you spread.
Your statement of ‘GGG went downhill since then’ has not been statistically showcased, it’s a personal experience and not a data-driven showcase.
The state hence is that your argument was not a fact, it’s not truthful.
We can now start to argue if there are distinct signs of downfall in the game - which are - and how much effect they’ll have - not much given the competitors dismantle themselves so eagerly.
You mean the dip of ‘Yes, GGG fucked up majorly for a year and is now trying to fix that’ dip?
Much like LE had a ‘major dip’ from 1.1 to 1.2… you know… because no proper updates came out making it viable to return?
There is no ‘narrative’ presented, you’re making a weird one up is all.
Ah?
Lemme check then… last years? Let’s say… 3? Ok? So Sentinel, Kalandra, Sanctum, Crucible, Ancestor, Affliciton, Necropolis, Settlers and now Merceneries are in that.
New skills since then:
Sentinel: None, focus on Atlas Passives instead.
Kalandra: Galvanic Field, Lightning Conduit and a new Mark. 3 skills.
Sanctum: Frozen Legion, Volcanic Fissure, Vaal Cleave, Vaal Flicker Strike, Vaal Blade Flurry, Vaal Venom Gyre, Vaal Molten Strike, Vaal Caustic Arrow, Vaal Volcanic Fissure, Vaal Smite. Let’s ignore the Vaal ones in your favor… so… 2 skills.
Crucible: Snipe, also 9 Vaal skills. But as before… 1 skill.
Ancestor: None, focus was on Support Gems.
Afflicition: None, the focus was on Uniques.
Necropolis: Automation, Autoexertion, 8 sets of transfigured gems. Let’s only say 2 skill.
Settlers: Crushing Fist, Vengeful Cry, Eviscerate, Swordstorm, Clacial Shield Swipe, Divine Retribution. 6 skills.
Mercenaries: None, focus on core rework of end-game aspects.
Total new skills: 14 Skills in 3 years. Not counting alternative versions of any kind or supports.
So GGG provided basically 3 Last Epoch masteries worth of skills in 3 years.
Maybe you should start sitting down and thinking of any ‘narrative’ is only created by your mind and not based on reality.
You’re literally making up things… spewing wrong statements that can be easily disproven by factual information.
Yes, GGG screwed up, companies tend to screw up… happens… give em flak, wait for em to fix their shit… move on. It only is an issue if it’s a repeated pattern, which GGG doesn’t show at all - yet - so it’s not viable to argument like it is.
I recommend you to get your shit together and re-evaluate what you write.
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At what point did I say they were paragons of software development? All I did was to reply to your statement that player numbers have been trending down since GGG were bought by Tencent which is demonstrably not true. I don’t have any problems with people not liking Tencent in the slightest & I’d never heard of Krafton before this thread.
All I know is that situations like the Subnautica thing are (potentially) complicated, that I know nothing about it & that people sometimes/often lie, so getting to the truth of the matter is difficult, especially if all you have to go on is stuff posted online.
I’ve only been playing it since closed beta & the “small groups of homers” are around ~200k-250k players which isn’t a particularly “small” group. But don’t let “reality” & “facts” get in the way of ad hominems.
You mean the dip where they didn’t realse any new leagues 'cause they’d moved all/most of the team off PoE 1 on to PoE 2? Yeah, that’s probably why the people that come back to play a new league didn’t come back because there wasn’t a new league to come back to…
I’ll just leave these here then, though personally I don’t consider Vaal versions of skills “new” & they have released quite a few of them in the past few years, I’ll give you that. I assume I don’t have to count them for you?
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Version_3.20.0#New_Content_and_Features
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Version_3.21.0#New_Content_and_Features
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Version_3.22.0#New_Content_and_Features
3.22 didn’t have any new active gems, but it did have 14 new supports
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Version_3.23.0#Transfigured_Gems
3.23 didn’t have any new active skill gems per se but it did introduce a metric fuckton of transfigured gems
No new gems at all for 3.24 to be fair
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Version_3.25.0#New_Content_and_Features
No new gems per se in 3.26 apart from the Trarathus versions of a bunch of gems
So, er, what was that about ignoring stuff that doesn’t match your narrative?
League mechanics can be a bit subjective, but while you may think that insulting people/randos on the internet rather than putting together a coherent argument backed by these things called “facts” (I’ll leave you to google what that means) makes you look cool & edgy, it just makes you look like a bit of a twat (I’ll leave you to google what that means).
That is a fair point, but the rest of it kinda makes you look a bit foaming at the mouth.
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Keep coping. Enjoy.
You’re fighting awfully hard. Enjoy your dead game. Apparently my opinion means so much to you you’ll write a novel to convince yourself they won’t ruin LE the way they’ve ruined everything they touch. Enjoy your delusions your opinion means nothing to me.
So you don’t believe your autonomic (sympathetic / parasympathetic) nervous system exists to inform you about how to feel and act given a set of circumstances and stimuli?* You don’t think your amygdala and prefrontal cortex detect and theorize about potential danger that could come to you all day long?** You don’t feel the slightest sensation run up your back when you see a lion, feel steam or see sharp objects? Really, you don’t experience any of that. Or you at least don’t understand that’s your nervous system.
I mean, well then what do you think is going on, then? How are we supposed to get through life if we have to try everything we can think of before we can know how to act? Do you do that? I’m willing to bet you probably don’t. I dunno, I mean. You tell me, I guess.
Autonomic nervous system - Wikipedia *
Amygdala - Wikipedia **
Prefrontal cortex - Wikipedia **
First of all: Nobody gives a shit about your opinion plainly spoken, you’re on the internet. You’re a nobody, a passing person to interact with which is gone the next moment. You have no relevance outside of a few people which take things too serious.
Secondly, @Llama8 is not defending Krafton, which you would’ve been able to read if you actually had read his post.
Thirdly, also there was never said that Krafton won’t ruin LE, which is very likely to happen. The only thing stated was that your comment about PoE’s growth and the relation to Tencent was factually wrong.
Nothing more, nothing less.
But since your mind seemingly is incapable of not twisting and turning what people write into a gordian knot I imagine nothing of that went through to you.
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My main problem with Tencent is that they’re an untrustworthy company that’s run by the CCP. I don’t think we should be trusting the same people who run Xinjiang and North Korea to put software on our computers. That’s just me. I only ever opposed this because I don’t want them involved in anything to do with my data or security.
But yeah I agree, either way; I don’t get how PoE or PoE2 has much to do with EHG cratering their game. They had opportunities to put out amazing content and grow their game but it came too little too late. It’s not like other Tencent games aren’t massively successful.
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Exciting times ahead. I look forward to seeing how this plays out and the direction it takes the game.
Best of luck to all involved.
Doth Tencent have a bad reputation? Crafton hath. P.s. Plus, Tencent simply gave money.
I am supporting thee and don’t want to offend, but there is an expression: ‘who is a fool, the fool himself or the one who followeth him?’
No, they acquired a <25% stake in EHG. Companies never “simply give” money.
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25% is nothing unlike 100%.