2500+hrs, $100s spent on MTX, Paid "Expansion"? Nah Im good

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Aftee 2,500 hours? I’m going to have to call bullshit on that. I just don’t believe that someone is that out of touch with their emotions that they’d spend that much time doing something without being paid for it. I can agree/accept that their feelings toward a thing changed & soured over time, but surely anyone with more self awareness than a goldfish would drop a game for other more enjoyable games within some tens of hours of not enjoying it?

Yes, but it gives an idea of how long they enjoyed it for. The OP won’t have enjoyed LE for a few tens of hours then spent the rest of the 2,500 hours in either apathy or dislike for it. That points to some worrying emotional issues.

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I played 2 WoW expension because people told me they need me and it isn’t that bad. To me it was just a habbit I disliked like smokig or drinking to much but I keept at it for two expension untill I told everyone to go F themselfs and I’m out. People do stupid shit for stupid reasons.

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What do you mean? There’s still a standalone client.

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back to reddit you go

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Orobyss claims another!

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that just shows how close minded you are
https://i.imgur.com/5p8UaJQ.png

i started the game open beta and am a whale
https://i.imgur.com/UxbUzhW.png

i have much more badges than those but i m lazy to highlight all of them as i usually hide them in the forum as it pleases me whenever some idiot says some bullshit like “well your opinion does not matter as you dont even spend a cent in the game” as i would then show off a huge plethora of badges in my response.

i could give you context to how i fell out of love for the game but you’re too close minded to even begin to fathom such a thing can happen and not only that, the way you talk about how people are so “out of touch with their emotions” is honestly disgustingly condescending.

get your head out of your ass. broaden your views. if everything was all rainbows and butterflies, people wouldnt find themselves stuck in toxic relationships. or do you simply dont believe they exist?

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Unfortunately imgur has decided it doesn’t want to have anything to do with people in the UK, so I have no idea why you think I’m closed minded.

Good for you! I also started playing during open beta & we’re talking about time not money, they are different & while there probably is some correlation (people that pay more are likely to play more), that doesn’t mean that people that only bought the initial pack/game can’t also have played for a really long time. Also, thanks for the humble brag & I still can’t see your imgur link.

Yes, I too like to be deceptive on forums before I can unveil my majesty & get the adulation I deserve!! Seriously though, nobody said your, or the OP’s opinion doesn’t matter.

:roll_eyes: I am well aware how someone can fall out of love with a game or hobby (or person), it’s happened numerous times to me, I even mentioned in my original post that feelings towards a game can change over time. I know that we can continue to play a game that we aren’t enjoying for a while longer for a number of reasons, including (but not limited to) that we enjoy playing with the people we play the game with, that it has become so enteined with our identity that it becomes habitual & we struggle with the thought of not playing it.

Do you think it isn’t being out of touch with your emotions to play a game for far longer than they’re enjoying it?

I think my assertion is still reasonable:

I don’t know how long they were playing LE while not enjoying it, but as I said, I still struggle to believe that that period of time was a significant proportion of his total 2.5k hours. I also agree with the other posts that to call the devs greedy when they’ve been running at a loss is quite hypocritical given how long the OP has played the game for (& again, I’m talking about time here).

If you weren’t all huffy because you’ve not always been worshipped for how much you’ve spent despite deliberately hiding it waiting for the time to passive aggressively reveal it (allegedly, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt), you might have read my post & not reacted to it in the way you did.

Never said it was.

I’m divorced.

Do you not believe in capitalisation or has your shift/caps lock key broken? It’s odd that you’ll capitalise LE/PoE, but never the first letter in a sentence or I. Is there no supporter pack for that then?

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People who paid a lot of money for something will often do something they hate because they paid for it. Sunk cost fallacy.

Though, I wouldn’t understand why I would spend a lot of extra money into something I hate.

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Yeah, that’s what I was alluding to, Ijust didn’twant to go into a Kulze length post (sorry @Kulze) by stating absolutely everything. It’d be interesting to see how someone’s enjoyment of a game changed over time (on a graph in excel, obvs) & whether that looked much different based on spend.

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Not necessarily?
There is always a warring situation where a fallacy occurs, which is acting according to your own feelings… just not the ones which you should act on to get a reliable result which feels good.

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I know there’s an emotional tension that has a lot of things going into it over & above just the playing of the game, but once it goes into a net negative surely the clock is ticking. Just how deep into the negative feels is it “normal” to continue doing a thing?

Edit: And if a person does go deep into the “hatred” while still playing a game, how is that not indicative of “worrying emotional issues”? And to give some context, my ex had some not insignificant mental health issues hence my comment that if you’re doing something you don’t like (& isn’t your job) then maybe that’s a sign of some emotional issues (if you’re a hammer, every problem looks like a nail).

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The longer the invested time before it ticks over the higher the timeframe commonly.

So it depends.

It also depends on mental condition, how much other stuff is going on the life of the person, how many alternative options for entertainment they have and so on.

It’s surprisingly variable there. Some realize the issue the second it appears… others play on for thousands of hours always feeling disappointed. It’s not that the experience is awful… it’s that it’s just at the brink of unfulfilling enough to finally detach yourself fully.

Lack of options from lack of experience.
Faulty strategies for dealing with arising issues (as those strategies have worked on other circumstances and ingrained)
And as you say… it could also be a sign of emotional issues.

But it’s by far not as clear cut as you think. The likelyhood for your option is only on the second place, faulty strategies which have become habits are the primary reason. Lack of experience is unlikely unless someone is rather young or quite low IQ (longer learning durations needed in magnitudes).

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you know what. i dont really care enough to put more effort into calling you out or making you understand.

i m just passing by in the forums nowadays anyway. havent been playing LE even.

Oniro and TQ2 seem to fit what i look for in a d-like nowadays. so coming to LE forums is more of a force of habit rather than anything else.

i dont see much topics that interest me anymore anyway, i ll see myself out

cheers

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This is the bit I have difficulty getting my head around. Thousands of hours after they’re in the net negative feelings about a game (not including the amount of time they’re playing for while they’re enjoying it).

Yup, emotions are complicated shit.

Don’t worry, you can rest easy in all your whale-y majesty that I feel suitably abashed and ashamed at having been “called out” for being “closed minded” by a whale person on the internet. But I will continue to try harder to pay attention to what people are writing rather than what I think people are writing.

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It’s the classic gambler’s fallacy… or sunken cost fallacy which happens.
The issue why that is so hard for some people to break out of is that while it accurs you’re after all putting more energy inside… which makes the fallacy even stronger as more would be ‘lost’ by stopping.

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Is it? At one point I got the impression the stand alone client will not be continued :smiley: . Then again I didn’t care that much because I#m so smard I have almost all my games in one basket and nothing will go wrong about this ever :rofl: .

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Yeah, there’s still a standalone client, it’s how you play in true offline. So even if the servers went down for good, you could still keep playing LE.

And yes, if Valve ever decides to go evil lots of people are screwed. But considering the options, at least Valve is stable. If you had your games spread out on other providers, you’d risk losing a few games every now and then as they go under.
So given the option between the unlikely (at least so far) chance that Valve will go tits up or that some other distribution system will (much more likely), I’d rather take the low chance of losing all at once than the higher chance of losing a few regularly.

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There appears to be a misunderstanding. Macknum was most likely referring to the stand-alone client that wasn’t attached to Steam and its systems in any way. EHG discontinued that client at some point, as described here, moved everything to Steam and consolidated all game modes (offline and online) into one game/client.
You’re probably talking about the offline “client”/portion of the game, that isn’t really stand-alone in the sense of being independent from Steam (and separate from the online part).

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I see. Yeah, you don’t have that anymore. But is the offline client through steam functionally different? You can still play LE if EHG decides to shut down and abandon the game.

If push comes to shove, since the files are still in your drive, if steam goes tits up, you can still find ways to play it.

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Yay my brain didn’t betray me once wohooo!

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