But that just goes to the purpose of having them in the game, at all, then… doesn’t it? If cycles are the direction the game is heading, shouldn’t items be obtainable – with reasonable effort – within the time constraints of those cycles? Sure, I have yet to see how the new factions will play into availability, but given that drop rates are being nerfed to account for them, and I have yet to see any (non-hacked) character flexing on full 4LP + T27 gearz…going on what… 1 year+ of these items being in the game… what’s the point? POE (yes, the evil comparison) has obscene amounts of GG gear, because of the limitless crafting available, so every season is overflowing with super-duperest stuff. But, I don’t know of any way to craft 4LP on a Unique… nor is there any method of crafting 2x exalted affixes on an item. So I just have to wonder why they are a possibility, given the less_than_a_snowballs_chance_in_hell odds of seeing them. shrug I’m sorry, it’s the Completist in me that actually wants to obtain these items, within my lifetime, and before my 3 year old goes off to college – I want to be able to hug him, and cry with him, when they are finally obtained.
Well, you need to make a real gamer choice, it is either the beloved drop or a family.
You can’t fight Father Time… believe me, he will kick you in the nuts when you try to shake his hand at the beginning of a fight. Mayweather has nothing on his dirty tricks!
you might be right - in which case it would take a lot more kills. A lot more.
I have very little skin in this conversation, but your argument implies (to me) that you are empathetically challenged. Something that you subjectively like is ‘good’, yet you are unable to understand someone else having the opposite opinion, which is therefore ‘bad’ (those are your words, btw).
I have no other reason to post this other than to point that out to you. Ok! Ok! the main reason is that I’m bored, but my point still stands.
… dammit, now I want to defend EHG.
The difference between this mechanic and D4’s uber uniques is that these uniques can and will drop for everyone. So it’s not like you aren’t going to ever see these uniques. What you aren’t guaranteed to see is an 4LP version of that item. It’s a huge difference. In general I think aspirational items are kind of stupid, but I don’t feel strongly that way (except for D4’s uber uniques which piss me off, but I hate the way D4 itemization breathes, so … yeah).
All that said (do I ever do concise, ffs!), I have to say that EHGs version is the most benign I’ve ever heard of, and I don’t really mind it at all. It scratches the ‘has aspirational items?’ itch that some folks seem to have, while also not pouring too much salt on the, ‘why is this even in the game?!’, folks (well, kind of, as this thread proves).
or just one unique drop and be lucky 
. on a serious note iam glad 4LP is hard to get since its makes items way stronger. I also like the fact that there is something to chase towards too which this game needs way more in my opinion (and will probably get in 1.0 and later).
i agree and i tried to point this out earlier in a different topic to him. its an opinion and subjective so everybody can agree or disagree. I do agree with him on this point he makes, but it doesnt make it a fact or only bad. anyways iam hyyyyped for 1.0 .
And if you want a specific item you need to do 100k bossfights or complete mono or dungeon runs. That’s a tad bit time consuming ^^.
On a more serious side of things. Well thought through build prior to 1.0 had no issues to run corruption monoliths with 0LP uniques and rare gear. So even a 1LP unique is a net gain that can put you “ahead of the curve”.
That’s not that bad, considering different item types and number of items players will drop across the whole population.
SAAAAAAME! ARE WE THERE YET?!
NOT YET! LETS PREPARE ON LE TOOLS! OH WAIT its down… xD lets WEEE ON THE FORUM INSTEAD. WeeeeeEEe. Which build your going to start or which class/mastery?
I thought it was Warlock… be ze Shaman 
looking so sexy now! I’M SO CONFUSED!
i gotta agree, shaman looks damn sexy indeed and i love those extra choices to adjust more into certain elements. One of the few things in D4 i loved whas elements druid so iam really happy with those shaman changes.
you got a direction in mind? Tornado’s, Lightning? Or all of them
But that’s not entirely the point. Many builds can run corrupted monoliths in strictly T16 rares – hell, my Spellblade recently just replaced a Crystal Sword with 2xT5, T3 and a T1 affix, running 350 corruption. The rarity is just unrealistic – compounded by the fact there’s no guarantee the base Unique will even roll good, and there’s no way to change that, at all.
Imagine (as I recently had) a 3/4LP Aberrant Call dropping, but with a min roll on +wraiths. Would you use it over a 0LP, max +wraith roll? Asking before the v1.0 changes to wraiths, of course. I’d wager… no. And that scenario alone highlight the lackluster-ness of the LP/carved_in_stone Unique system. Getting a 3/4LP Unique, THE Unique for the build you’re running, should require you to change your shorts. Instead, it results in the 'God hates me" feeling.
And yes, I realize flame wraith build is OP, even with a 0LP Aberrant Call, but the fact that a 3LP (couldnt even imagine a 4LP with the same roll) drop not feeling good is just… why dafuq?
I’m switching over to your thread because I shouldn’t be a bad boy and derail this thread (any more than I already have)
Sorry OP!
Around 1 in 100.000…
Doesnt seem like that much … If its on only 1 boss maybe too low of a chance for 1 person to drop, but still it can happen to multiple players. If it is on every single drop, just playing casually you would get it …
you realize its 1 in 100k unique items right? do you have any idea how long it takes to drop for example 100k uniques? several years or more for a single person
I think each unique (especially powerful ones) can only drop from certain rares or bosses. So if it’s 1 in 100K, then that’s 100K rares you have to kill. In other words, you will need a miracle to get the drop 
but why the fk do the people replying care if someone gets a “HURRR DURRR MEGA UBER SUPER STRONG ITEM REEEEEE” it’s not a fkin pvp game??? why the hell do you care how much damage someone does in their own session? and you can just… ya know… not freaking play with them too even if it was online, it’s almost like there’s not like 10k people playing it -.-
No, it depends. There are boss drop uniques that only drop from those bosses, but most uniques are world drop so can drop from any mob in any zone above the minimum level.
Have you heard about a thing called “leaderboards”?
If a 4 LP is guaranteed within, let’s say, 30h of farming, the player is “incentivized” to run nothing but 4LP Legendaries in their build. This completely negate the use for base items, set items or sealed affixes. It’s also very boring, imho, because at that point, there is no longer a reason to grind things except the Arena for Leaderboard rank.
Instead, players have choices to make, that’s what makes it a game.
I mean, if you want instant gear, go on true offline and notepad yourself all the gear you want … you’ll probably be bored within a month because there is no incentive to actually play anymore