Inverting the paid components won’t change much. You would have either to choose between new content (not only campaign related) and new classes. You will miss stuff nonetheless if you don’t pay.
I have no issue in paying a bit extra for a DLC for a great game like Last Epoch. Many people say that PoE is free and all, but the reality is that we all spend money on PoE buying extra tabs or what have you.
The way the game first described how it would make money didn’t make sense back then. I have as much faith on this game now as I did when I purchased an early release copy years ago. I do believe you are doing the best decision you can giving the circumstances. Forget what other ARPGs are doing and focus on what you what to do and your vision and all shall fall into place.
Thank you for the update and keeping us in the loop. I hope to support you guys in many years to come.
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Its sad when I feel less fucked in the ass by a free to play arpg like TL:I that has paid drop boosts.
But hey atleast I get all the classes for free as long as I dont wanna play the new one.
I cant wait for years of paradox characters sitting unbought and just never getting them so krafton can hope some rube goes and buys them all.
No, you’re dumb. You prefer to shout because he’s announcing something you have to pay for, something you don’t even have to pay to play and that probably won’t cost much. Wake up!
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How about properly doing it in your Forum rather then a 3rd party site? Which is another issue you guys have besides… whatever this announcement was.
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I regret all the 500 hours I’ve sunk into this game, and the supporter pack to go with it.
It’s been fun. Farewell.
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Paid classes are in a way - Pay to Win.
I have no problem paying for them BUT on principle alone, this is a bad move and will lead to player trust erosion, which you currently have a lot of. Don’t burn it.
My recommendation - stick to supporter packs, make them cooler and people will support you. Don’t lock content behind paywalls tough.
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That roadmap is something else! Why did it take so long?
Nice that the expansion will be included with the base game. We’ll see how the DLC class works out, hopefully not pay to win.
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Paid classes are just one way to implement P2W which is even more of an F-U to players because the game isn’t free. Huge mistake by EHG. I will not be returning.
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While I’m very excited for new content and it is nice to hear a bit more (especially about Krafton’s AI-first approach not changing how you work on the game), paid gameplay DLC is quite the change from cosmetic MTX only. (Even if a small DLC and MTX might be thought of differently here.) I understand a paid expansion and would even have been fine with just a minor launch discount, but the entire joy of the game is to just jump in without being gated out of gameplay options. And even being understanding of finding ways to create revenue, this feels like a bit of a betrayal for anyone who happily tried to support the game where they could cause it was only cosmetics.
I am looking forward to seeing the paradox classes come to life and really hope you reconsider this paid DLC choice…
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I mean… for it not to be Pay2Win it would need to be weaker then other classes… so… that would be kinda a odd thing to release.
And getting it ‘just right’ is not exactly a thing which will happen, if it’s tested and upholds power properly to other classes it means anyone finding a single interesting combination not tested will cause it to be OP.
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I feel like everything is ok. We have a free expansion, and any entertainment company needs to earn somehow.
Especially since it is very likely that the more EHG can earn, the more Krafton will stay away.
I know, ideal would be for everythng to be free in the world but it simply doesn’t work this way.
I feel it was more in line with EHG decision, rather than the greedy evil big money company, to make other classes the paid feature instead of a lore-containing expansion.
I mean, you want new classes? You got bored of the ones existing? That’s because you got 1k hours on the game, you baboon. You already got back in entertainment way more than the 27 dollars the game costed you in the first place.
The lore continues outside the game you paid and we don’t want you to pay more for it? You get it for free, imagine.
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It’s more than a little disheartening that EHG abandons their own forums for Reddit. This is the only post here in months and even then you are doing everything you can to not be here. Do any of the 100-ish workers even look at these forums at all?
Edit: from the Reddit thread:
: Will the new Paradox Classes be pay to win?
A: No, the new Paradox Classes will leverage all new features in Last Epoch but will be balance tested the same way, and against all available classes.
Honestly fills me with dread. The class balance in this game is abysmal.
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What LE needs is a growing playerbase and Hype. How about having a new Support Tier that includes a free game copy. People will gift them aways or it will be raffled away by streamers.
I have nothing against paid classes, but it should add nothing to old classes. Adding stuff to old class should be free.
Also with your wording I’m almost convinced LE S4 isn’t coming out in January. That’s a bummer. Also the Roadmap doesn’t include anything, like nothing. Almost Blizzard like communication.
Also making expansion means always cutting potential content for seasons. And it makes more work cause more teams to manage and content. Personally I’m not a friend of expansion in an ARPG that wants to be a Life Service Game. But you do you.
I still like AARPGs and play all of them except PoE. So I’m not so harsh on paid content if the game is still fun with the class I play. And I only play Mage - Sorc or Spellblade. And with Mike teasers so far I’m looking forward to play Spellblade in S4.
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Very excited! I’m looking forward to information on the new paradox classes!
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If us, as community, continue to call for a scam every time EHG tries to make an absolutely legitimate earning, then the community is screwed, and so the game.
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Reddit thread locked 2 minutes after posting. LOL
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I’ve seen some completely incomprehensible Falconer nerfs, which, instead of nerfing broken meta passives, nerf the entire class, essentially killing any build except the meta one.
Also, last season, I saw players, including myself, screaming about a bug in the Lich’s key passive in the very first days. But there was no fix for a very long time.
So I’m not sure the class I bought won’t suffer the same fate. I vowed not to donate to the game until the localization is fixed. Apparently, that opportunity won’t arise again.
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